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Second session Omaha (Return of the Lucksack)

Postby Stoneburg » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:07 am

Alrighty. Seems like the overwhelming majority were of the opinion that my previous winning session was less about my Mad Poker Skills(tm) and more because of me being a lucksack. Let's see what the verdict is this time:

Short session today. Just got home from some volonteer work (does wonders for my karma obviously ;) ) and could only get an hour in. I play only two tables. The stats:

Hands: 97
Vpip: 29,9%
Won w SF: 27,8%
Went to SD: 13,9%
Won SD: 80%
Pfr: 5,15%

BB/100: 181,53 (down from 187,90, unacceptable!)

The hands:


#1 - Nutty pushes with nutty draws

Seat 1: chris07109 ( $189.60 )
Seat 2: bobwankenobe ( $63.95 )
Seat 3: poker_ace133 ( $4.35 )
Seat 4: Sobika ( $38.25 )
Seat 5: THEABADIA ( $25 )
Seat 6: liquidmd ( $23.05 )
Seat 10: clean_sweep ( $65.30 )
Seat 8: kaboobi ( $8 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $23.60 )
Seat 9: booher ( $24.75 )

Dealt to Hero [Jd] [Tc] [Kd] [Kh]
chris07109 calls [$0.25].
bobwankenobe calls [$0.25].
poker_ace133 calls [$0.25].
Sobika calls [$0.25].
THEABADIA calls [$0.25].
liquidmd calls [$0.25].
Hero raises [$2.35].
kaboobi calls [$2.35].
booher folds.
clean_sweep folds.
chris07109 calls [$2.10].
bobwankenobe folds.
poker_ace133 calls [$2.10].
Sobika calls [$2.10].
THEABADIA calls [$2.10].
liquidmd calls [$2.10].

** Dealing Flop ** [7d] [Ad] [9h]
chris07109 checks.
poker_ace133 is all-In [$2]
Sobika folds.
THEABADIA raises [$9].
liquidmd calls [$9].
Hero is all-In [$21.25]
kaboobi folds.
chris07109 folds.
THEABADIA calls [$12.25].
liquidmd is all-In [$11.70]
** Dealing Turn ** [Jc]
** Dealing River ** [2d]
THEABADIA shows [As] [Ts] [2c] [8s] a straight, seven to jack.
liquidmd shows [9d] [Ac] [5c] [6d] a flush, ace high.
Hero shows [Jd] [Tc] [Kd] [Kh] a flush, ace high.
poker_ace133 doesn't show [7c] [6h] [9s] [6s] two pairs, nines and sevens.
Hero wins $1.10 from side pot #2 with a flush, ace high with king kicker.
Hero wins $54.35 from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with king kicker.
Hero wins $23.80 from the main pot with a flush, ace high with king kicker.

Looks like a quality hand to me, worth a raise preflop against limpers and in good position, right? Nut flush draw and 3 more outs for a gutty, no way I am folding it. Should I just call instead? I figure my equity is good enough whether they fold or not. I doubt I have ANY fold equity though. Still, this HAS to be a +EV move.. right?


#2 - AK can't lose

Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Piruile ( $37.25 )
Seat 5: ThaSizzla ( $12.74 )
Seat 7: LLLxx ( $51.90 )
Seat 9: djjeffypoo ( $27.05 )
Seat 3: Nana13x ( $25.45 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $27.30 )
Seat 2: kohtalopoika ( $24.40 )
Seat 10: Urszula25 ( $22.30 )
Seat 8: saari111 ( $7.45 )
Seat 6: PairOfBlanks ( $25 )
saari111 posts small blind [$0.10].
Urszula25 posts big blind [$0.25].

Dealt to Hero [Kd] [Ad] [3d] [Qc]
Piruile folds.
kohtalopoika folds.
Nana13x calls [$0.25].
Hero calls [$0.25].
ThaSizzla raises [$1].
saari111 calls [$0.90].
Urszula25 folds.
Nana13x folds.
Hero calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [7c] [Th] [Kh]
saari111 checks.
Hero bets [$3.35].
ThaSizzla calls [$3.35].
saari111 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [6d]
Hero bets [$9.70].
>You have options at Table 65386 Table!.
ThaSizzla is all-In [$8.39]
** Dealing River ** [5s]
Hero shows [Kd] [Ad] [3d] [Qc] a pair of kings.
ThaSizzla doesn't show [Qh] [Qd] [Ah] [6h] a pair of queens.
Hero wins $1.31 from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
Hero wins $25.68 from the main pot with a pair of kings.

The hand before this I saw him raise with a QQxx hand and bet it despite a K on the board, and call a bet on the river with an underpair. I just had the feeling I was ahead, still, this is the first time I have played TPTK this hard and it will probably be a while until I do it again.


#3 - Call me a calling station

Seat 1: Piruile ( $37.50 )
Seat 7: LLLxx ( $49.95 )
Seat 9: djjeffypoo ( $26.70 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $38.04 )
Seat 10: Urszula25 ( $20.45 )
Seat 8: saari111 ( $29.15 )
Seat 6: PairOfBlanks ( $26.60 )
Seat 5: beerfund21 ( $26.30 )
Seat 2: Bengsta ( $24.25 )
Seat 3: Riverhater13 ( $11.50 )
saari111 posts small blind [$0.10].
djjeffypoo posts big blind [$0.25].

Dealt to Hero [Qd] [Jd] [Qc] [Ts]
Urszula25 calls [$0.25].
Piruile folds.
Bengsta calls [$0.25].
Riverhater13 folds.
Hero raises [$1.35].
beerfund21 folds.
PairOfBlanks folds.
LLLxx folds.
saari111 folds.
djjeffypoo folds.
Urszula25 folds.
Bengsta calls [$1.10].
** Dealing Flop ** [3s] [7h] [2s]
Bengsta bets [$1].
Hero calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [8c]
Bengsta bets [$3].
Hero calls [$3].
** Dealing River ** [Kd]
Bengsta bets [$10].
Hero calls [$10].
Bengsta shows [5c] [3d] [4s] [Ac] a pair of threes.
Hero shows [Qd] [Jd] [Qc] [Ts] a pair of queens.
Hero wins $29.75 from the main pot with a pair of queens.

He seemed like the kind of player who would:
a) Raise a big pair preflop
b) Check/raise with a strong hand like a set
I figured him for a draw or a smaller pair. Should I have just raised him on the flop? I was thinking he would re-raise me with a flush draw and I don't want to build a pot OOP with this marginal hand. If an Ace or spade comes I am folding. I figure I get bluff equity this way. The K on the river didn't trouble me at all, I figured that if he hit the K he would just check and hope his hand was good. He's either got a busted draw or a set, and I'm thinking busted draw.



#4 - We're going straight to the boat

Seat 1: chris07109 ( $195.25 )
Seat 2: bobwankenobe ( $49.95 )
Seat 3: poker_ace133 ( $32.65 )
Seat 6: liquidmd ( $22.90 )
Seat 7: Hero ( $79.05 )
Seat 9: booher ( $24.75 )
Seat 8: Peeweelow ( $69.40 )
Seat 5: takewashi ( $24.55 )
Seat 10: djjeffypoo ( $24.75 )
Seat 4: D1amondJenny ( $25 )

Dealt to Hero [Qh] [Kh] [9d] [Td]
Hero calls [$0.25].
Peeweelow calls [$0.25].
booher folds.
djjeffypoo folds.
chris07109 calls [$0.25].
bobwankenobe calls [$0.25].
poker_ace133 calls [$0.25].
takewashi folds.
liquidmd checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [8c] [Jd] [Ts]
liquidmd checks.
Hero bets [$1.55].
Peeweelow folds.
chris07109 calls [$1.55].
bobwankenobe calls [$1.55].
poker_ace133 folds.
liquidmd folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [Qs]
Hero bets [$5.95].
chris07109 calls [$5.95].
bobwankenobe folds.
** Dealing River ** [Tc]
Hero checks.
chris07109 bets [$6].
Hero calls [$6].
chris07109 shows [5c] [Ks] [9s] [7d] a straight, nine to king.
Hero shows [Qh] [Kh] [9d] [Td] a full house, Tens full of queens.
Hero wins $28.65 from the main pot with a full house, Tens full of queens.
bobwankenobe has left the table.

Nut straight on the flop turns into second nuts on the turn. I would have folded to a raise but when he flat called I figured him for JJ or 88. On the river I am behind JJ and QQ so I decide to just call it. In hindsight I think he would have bet bigger with JJ or QQ so maybe a CR would have been OK but then again, how does he call that with anything I beat? I had also seen him bluff when the draw got there on the river before which is why I checked, I thought that would be the most EV in the long run.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:55 pm

Hand one your flop re-raise is bad; if the board pairs you want to reserve the right to fold on the turn. You also want to give everybody the chance to limp in with weaker draws than yours, low sets, two pair etc as this represents dead money to your hand. The raiser probably has a set and so you have basically no fold equity pretty much.

Hand 2 looks a bit ropey (I wouldn't bet that flop as your AK isn't worth much and against two oppos you're very likely to be called). After he just smooth called, though, and with the ability to put him in on the turn, I don't think it's too bad. I figure you're prob a bit over 50% against his likely range.

Hand 3 if you figured him for weakness and considered that he is capable of folding a missed hand (like AA) you need to raise the flop rather than funnelling more money into the hand and letting him catch something through the backdoor with free cards. Otherwise i'd just let it go.

Hand 4 I figure you played pretty well. Seems unlikely someone has AT on the turn and the best way to find out is to bet as you did. I usually have a little bet on that river, again you can let go to a raise generally, though against some players (aggro ones) it's better to check and try to elicit a bluff, as you did. No need to raise as no-one's calling unless they can beat you.
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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:06 pm

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Postby Kuso » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:19 am

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