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Hand Critiques 25 PLO8

Postby piersmajestyk » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:03 pm

Perhaps I was a little strong on the first hand but I liked my hand although I would have liked it alot less if I knew the one guy had AA. But when it gets back to him I think he should lay that top set down in my opinion. Thought on that as well.

The second hand I just figured I had the best hand and the best draw against this guy who had been raising about 50% of the pots preflop and pushing his stack around. He had just lost a good chunk of it a couple of hands earlier and this hand stopped the bullying.

Hand 1.

***** Hand History for Game 2925229635 *****
0/0 Omaha Hi/Lo Game Table (PL) - Mon Feb 20 14:39:47 EST 2006
Table Table 36706 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: DARBYK ( $33.97)
Seat 2: howardroake ( $25)
Seat 3: razorstoneaf ( $24.25)
Seat 4: pokerinet ( $7.05)
Seat 5: tadoams ( $59.40)
Seat 6: blue7296 ( $8.75)
Seat 7: OXFORD ( $25)
Seat 8: Apachedog98 ( $31.50)
Seat 9: crazyfly ( $32.25)
Seat 10: Lucia_Cortez ( $23.90)
tadoams posts small blind (0.10)
blue7296 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Lucia_Cortez [ 3h, 6d, 4d, 5h ]
OXFORD calls (0.25)
crazyfly calls (0.25)
Lucia_Cortez calls (0.25)
DARBYK calls (0.25)
howardroake folds.
razorstoneaf calls (0.25)
pokerinet folds.
tadoams calls (0.15)
blue7296 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 6h, 3d ]
tadoams checks.
blue7296 checks.
OXFORD bets (1.70)
crazyfly folds.
Lucia_Cortez raises (5) to 5
DARBYK folds.
razorstoneaf calls (5)
tadoams folds.
blue7296 folds.
OXFORD raises (20) to 21.70
Lucia_Cortez raises (18.65) to 23.65
Lucia_Cortez is all-In.
razorstoneaf raises (19) to 24
razorstoneaf is all-In.
OXFORD calls (2.30)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2s ]
Creating Main Pot with $69.70 with Lucia_Cortez
Creating Side Pot 1 with $0.70 with razorstoneaf
** Summary **
Main Pot: $69.70 | Side Pot 1: $0.70 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ah 6h 3d 7h 2s ]
DARBYK balance $33.72, lost $0.25 (folded)
howardroake balance $25, didn't bet (folded)
razorstoneaf balance $0.35, bet $24.25, collected $0.35, lost -$23.90 [ 5c As Qd Ad ] [ LO: 6,5,3,2,A | HI: three of a kind, aces -- As,Ad,Ah,7h,6h ]
pokerinet balance $7.05, didn't bet (folded)
tadoams balance $59.15, lost $0.25 (folded)
blue7296 balance $8.50, lost $0.25 (folded)
OXFORD balance $1.10, bet $24.25, collected $0.35, lost -$23.90 [ 4h Qc 2c 8d ] [ LO: 6,4,3,2,A | HI: a pair of twos -- Ah,Qc,7h,2c,2s ]
Apachedog98 balance $31.50, sits out
crazyfly balance $32, lost $0.25 (folded)
Lucia_Cortez balance $69.70, bet $23.90, collected $69.70, net +$45.80 [ 3h 6d 4d 5h ] [ LO: 5,4,3,2,A | HI: a flush, ace high -- Ah,7h,6h,5h,3h ]


Hand 2.

***** Hand History for Game 2925248424 *****
0/0 Omaha Hi/Lo Game Table (PL) - Mon Feb 20 15:14:34 EST 2006
Table Table 36748 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: EJ122 ( $59.50)
Seat 2: Lucia_Cortez ( $27.15)
Seat 3: ImSong ( $23.73)
Seat 4: YooLingFoo ( $8.50)
Seat 5: golfo72 ( $42.51)
Seat 6: Real_Truth ( $24.25)
Seat 7: OzCanuck ( $22.90)
Seat 8: shar_sj1 ( $24.65)
Seat 9: Apachedog98 ( $47.95)
Seat 10: OXFORD ( $47.30)
golfo72 posts small blind (0.10)
Real_Truth posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Lucia_Cortez [ Ah, Jc, Qd, Tc ]
OzCanuck calls (0.25)
shar_sj1 folds.
Apachedog98 folds.
OXFORD raises (1.10) to 1.10
EJ122 calls (1.10)
Lucia_Cortez calls (1.10)
ImSong folds.
YooLingFoo folds.
golfo72 folds.
Real_Truth folds.
OzCanuck calls (0.85)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 2s, Ac ]
OzCanuck checks.
OXFORD bets (4.55)
EJ122 folds.
Lucia_Cortez raises (18.20) to 18.20
OzCanuck folds.
OXFORD raises (41.65) to 46.20
OXFORD is all-In.
Lucia_Cortez calls (7.85)
Lucia_Cortez is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
Creating Main Pot with $54.05 with Lucia_Cortez
Creating Side Pot 1 with $20.15 with OXFORD
** Summary **
Main Pot: $54.05 | Side Pot 1: $20.15 | Rake: $2.80
Board: [ Qc 2s Ac 8h 7d ]
EJ122 balance $58.40, lost $1.10 (folded)
Lucia_Cortez balance $54.05, bet $27.15, collected $54.05, net +$26.90 [ Ah Jc Qd Tc ] [ two pairs, aces and queens -- Ah,Ac,Qd,Qc,8h ]
ImSong balance $23.73, didn't bet (folded)
YooLingFoo balance $8.50, didn't bet (folded)
golfo72 balance $42.41, lost $0.10 (folded)
Real_Truth balance $24, lost $0.25 (folded)
OzCanuck balance $21.80, lost $1.10 (folded)
shar_sj1 balance $24.65, didn't bet (folded)
Apachedog98 balance $47.95, didn't bet (folded)
OXFORD balance $20.15, bet $47.30, collected $20.15, lost -$27.15 [ Th Ks Jh As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ac,Ks,Qc,8h ]
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Re: Hand Critiques 25 PLO8

Postby TomG » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:44 pm

Hand 1.

I'm folding this hand pre-flop 100% of the time in every position except perhaps the small blind in an unraised pot. You call and that's not terrible. You'll just need to proceed with the caution required of a marginal starting hand.

You flop a moderately strong two-way hand--bottom two-pair with the 2nd nut low as well as an open-end straight draw and a weak flush draw. This a very robust hand that should match up well against a single opponent. Against a field of opponents, you're going to have trouble withstanding much heat because this hand has 2nd best written all over it. That's why if you're going to proceed I like the raise to try to get it heads-up. When there's a cold-caller and the original bettor then pushes... Ugh. I would not feel good about things. Unless the villains are donks, people who are so willing to push in a 3-way pot like this probably have some of your draws counterfeited. I'd probably call, figuring the pot odds justify it, but I'd hate it and would curse myself for playing such a marginal hand in the first place.

Threeway
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1540771
pokenum -o8 3h 6d 4d 5h - 4h qc 2c 8d - 5c as qd ad -- ah 6h 3d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 3d Ah 6h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6d 4d 5h 3h 70 286 377 3 93 561 12 0.290
Qc 2c 8d 4h 35 35 628 3 561 99 6 0.451
As 5c Ad Qd 0 342 324 0 0 360 6 0.259

Heads-up
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1540775
pokenum -o8 3h 6d 4d 5h - 4h qc 2c 8d -- ah 6h 3d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 3d Ah 6h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6d 4d 5h 3h 108 722 93 5 108 703 9 0.510
Qc 2c 8d 4h 93 93 722 5 703 108 9 0.490

Heads-up
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1540776
pokenum -o8 3h 6d 4d 5h - - 5c as qd ad -- ah 6h 3d
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 3d Ah 6h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6d 4d 5h 3h 319 380 440 0 703 0 117 0.696
As 5c Ad Qd 0 440 380 0 0 378 117 0.304
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Re: Hand Critiques 25 PLO8

Postby TomG » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:52 pm

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Postby GooperMC » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:08 pm

Hand 1
Pre-flop
I don’t like that hand from MP. I may sneak a limp in from the button but not from MP.

Flop
I prolly fold to the first bet, but I guess raising is better then calling. One you raise, someone cold calls, and the PRF raiser / original bettor pushes you have to get out of the way. At that point you have to think your boat outs aren’t clean and it is likely the cold caller has some of your str8 outs. I think there is enough play left in this hand (you have only committed 1/5 of your stack) to get away from this one.

Hand 2
I like it. It is a high variance play but I think it is the right play.
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Postby JDLush » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:31 am

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:16 pm

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A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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