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Pot the turn? (PLO8)

Postby TomG » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:30 pm

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Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
10 players


Hero $437.50 in chips
SB $209.75 in chips (VPIP 24, PFR 0.8, AF-Tot 2.0) (Seems solid)
UTG $65.95 in chips (VPIP 60, PFR 0.0, AF-Tot 1.0) (Loose-passive shortstacked fishy)


Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with [Js] [Kd] [Ts] [Kh]
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1, BB checks.

Flop: [Th] [Jd] [6d] ($12, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, BB folds, UTG calls $12, 2 folds.

Turn: [7c] ($48, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero...

Is this an easy pot bet to charge the lows and/or flush draws? Or should I be afraid of the straight card and not want to get check-raised off my full-house draw? What about betting the pot and then folding to a check-raise? The problem is that I'm reluctant to increase the size of the pot any larger as there are a LOT of scare cards on the river and I'll have a tough time calling a river bet. What's my line here?
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Postby JDLush » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:22 pm

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Postby GooperMC » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:28 am

I check, not because I am afriad of being CRed, but because I am afraid of the river. There are literally only 4 cards you want to see on the river so, I really don’t want to grow this pot anymore. My worry is that you pot (or ½ pot) and get called in one place. Then the river comes and someone bets into you. Now what do you do?
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Postby TomG » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:38 am

Well, I agonized over a turn bet for a while and eventually decided to check. I considered betting 1/2 of the pot, but I decided a bet that size doesn't protect my hand (JD's post titled, "When you can't price them off their draw, what do you do?" actually flashed through my mind) and it exposes me to a check-raise. I suppose I shouldn't fear a check-raise, as my draw isn't very strong and if I do get check-rasied it's an easy laydown. My main reason to check behind was because I had no plan for the river, and if anyone bet at the pot I would have to give up having thrown my money away on the turn. As much as I hate giving a free card, I felt it was my best option.

Turn: [7c] ($48, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: [9s] ($48, 3 players)
SB bets $24, UTG raises all-in $51.95, Hero folds, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $27.95 returned to UTG.

I was surprised SB bet-folded the river. It was an easy laydown for me. I'm curious if he was bluffing or he had a smaller straight that he decided to fold.
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Postby JDLush » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:49 pm

That is one of the few flops where I would usually feel pretty decent about betting my 2 pair on. It's a risky play for sure and I'd feel a helluva lot better if I was heads up. Definitely an easy fold after all that river action.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:51 pm

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