by MVPSPORTS » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:50 pm
Nash... I don't play on Party much, and I don't remember how many chips they give you to start... I know they give 1000 for the $50SNGs... It would help to give advice to know stack sizes... I'm going to assume for this post that its 1000 also...
Anyway, that aside... I wouldn't raise QUITE so much PF... Maybe if someone had raised 80 and already had 2 callers, it would be fine... But, that's not the case... More likely, some bozo in EP limped w/ crapola, and 2 LP players are playing "position", or some other such crap... So, when the SB raises, you have to assume that all 3 aren't gonna stay in the hand... Ideally, you want to isolate w/ the SB and pray to GOD he doesn't have Aces... You gotta be careful that, if he has Jacks or Queens, though, you don't chase him... That was a VERY long-winded way of saying that I think you should've raised closer to 3x his bet, which would be 240.. That way, if an Ace flops, you can get away relatively cheaply...
On the flop... the dreaded Ace hits... he bets 150, which is a shitty little bet, but it's still enough that, if you call, you have 1/2 of your chips in the pot... This is, in my opinion, getting VERY close to an allin or fold situation... And, early in the tourney, where these idiots LOVE playing Ace/anything, I'd probably fold... Normally, I would like to raise here, but you're basically putting all your chips in w/almost anything that you do...
Lets look at it a little closer if you had raised a little less PF... He calls the 240... that leaves you w/ 760 each (I'm assuming you both have full stacks)... He bets 150 into a pot of ~500, which is still showing weakness, and you could minraise to 300, leaving you w/ 460 (which is still iffy...)... If he calls or raises, you're done... Then, you're down to about half your chips, and have an uphill climb... I don't especially like this play either, but the lower raise PF gives you a LITTLE more flexibility...
Honestly, I think folding to his bet on the flop is your best option... I can't see anyone calling that allin w/out an Ace, and I really think that the people at these SNGs would've checked to you as the PF raiser if he didn't have an ace... I think you're only shot to win this hand was to push the flop and pray...