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Magnificatnion of Bad Beats when Multi-Tabling SNGs

Postby kdiddy33 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:51 am

This is not my usual - $5.50 fish suck out post.

I moved over to UB to multi-table SNGs - since I'm so doggone good at it, I should be paid thrice as quickly! Right.

Anyways, what I've noticed is that there is a benefit to playing 3 games at once, since you are not sitting there over-playing marginal hands in the one game at a time Pacific format. It also seems like you get more big pocket pairs to play quicker, helping the tight aggressive player. In a week or so on UB, I'm up about $30 on the $5.50s, bet I've never seen so many aces get cracked, kings run up against aces and lose, etc.

I think that what is happening, and I'm trying to sort this out in my mind, is that by playing three games at once, paying only marginal attention to the players (I only have one brain you know, and most of the players are not great at this level) and focusing more on playing the cards correctly, that when I make a strong play (i.e., like pushing with kings ten handed when re-raised after a 5 times BB bet from any position and the guy shows me aces - I have to do this because so many LAG players will push with queens-tens and any ace with a face card) and get beat, it gets magnified, so that it feels like I'm taking more bad beats than I used to by playing one game at a time.

Some hilarious examples from last night for instance:

1) I have aces, 6-handed, flop is ace, heart, heart (after I bet pre-flop) a guy called my bet with K8 hearts, I push all in and he calls me with his four flush (the only ace I didn't have was the heart of course) and nails it on the turn.

2) I have aces, 5-handed (second time in 4 hands, third in the same SNG, weird, math please?), raise against another medium stack (knowing that I'm trying to suck him in for a call so I can go over the top, which I did), catch another ace on the flop, he has JQ and catches a straight after calling my all in to knock me out.

Does anybody else feel the magnification effect? Or is it just me? I've tightened my game up a bit given the $1500 in chips you get to start as opposed to the $800 in Pacific, knowing that the style is generally LAG most of the time.

Thanks, and this post is not meant to whine about the bad beats, I'm fine with them.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:18 pm

kdiddy... Generally speaking, 3-tabling = 3x the aces, kings that get cracked... 3x the bad beats... 3x the big wins (unfortunately I don't get the third nearly as much as the first 2 :( )...

One thing I noticed when I multi is that if I have AJ on one table, AAJ will flop another, where I have 1010... Just one of those things that make people think online poker is rigged... which, now that I think about it, I think I'm startin to agree with... :D
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Postby kdiddy33 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:35 am

Thanks MVP, I think you are right about catching the cards you want on the next table at the same time.

It is funny.
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Postby flafishy » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:45 am

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Postby kdiddy33 » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:34 pm

I agree to some extent. At the $5 and $10 SNG level, however, its easier to assume that most of the players suck (if you are indeed good). You can still take notes on the ridiculous plays you see on those players.

I've actually found the opposite to be true, that when I really hunker down and try to understand my opponents, etc, I overplay marginal hands. Its easier to just sit back and wait for your big hands. Multi-tabling allows this easier in my opinion.

PS, in 300 SNGs at the $5s and $10s, I'm at an ITM of 49% and ROI of 32%. Up $675 in profit in 3 months. Maybe I'm right, or pretty lucky, could be a little of both. A lot of my games were played one tabling at Pacific, but I like UB much better now. When I was on Pacific I would always be surfing the net, or something else to avoid over-scrutinizing the players.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:46 pm

fla... I agree in paying attention, to an extent... But, in most of the SNGs I play, I don't really have to start paying CLOSE attention until the blinds are high enough where: 1. all the idiots have already pushed allin w/ their K2o and are gone, and 2. everyone doesn't just limp and minraise everything to death... I think the REAL play starts at about the $25/50 level... Once I get there, I'll usually sit out the couple cash games I usually have going on at the same time, and really pay attention to whats going on...
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