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JJ in CO to a raise

Postby Sunbob » Mon May 23, 2005 11:34 pm

Hand 24 and Villian is the chip leader. He has gotten there showing solid hands and I haven't seen him do anything crazy yet.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (8 handed)

Hero (t3040)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1400)
BB (t195)
UTG (t2420)
UTG+1 (t1175)
MP1 =#A500AF(Villian)/ (t3775)
MP2 (t1505)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [Jd], [Jc].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, MP1 =#A500AF(Villian)/ raises to t120, 1 fold, Hero calls t120, 2 folds, BB calls t80, UTG+1 calls t80.

Flop: (t500) [7d], [2s], [3h] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Villian bets t250, Hero raises to t500, BB calls t75 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, Villian raises to t2075, Hero folds.

Turn: (t3150) [6c] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3150) [4h] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3150

Results in white below:
BB has Js 9h (high card, jack).
Villian has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Villian wins t3150.


How do you play these jacks? My thought was that they deserved a call and then I raised on the flop to see where I was at. When Villian reraised me I said thank you for the info and got out of the way. With 20/20 hindsight I think it would have been cheaper to get that info preflop with a raise. What do people think?
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Postby flafishy » Tue May 24, 2005 1:09 am

That's a tough one, not an easy one to play. But I think a mini-reraise preflop would have been the best play. If he has AA or KK, he'll probably come back hard thinking he has you hooked and you can drop them then.

That's 20-20 hindsight, I know. The temptation there is to see a flop before committing anything, but I think you're correct in your second-guessing.

That said, since you did see the flop, I think you played the flop perfectly.

An aside: What the hell was BB doing in that pot?
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Tue May 24, 2005 10:17 am

Bob...

I agree w/ your second guessing... Reraise PF and see what he does... If he comes over the top, he's got AA,KK,maybe QQ... If he calls and bets out the flop, same difference... If he calls and checks to you, he's probably got QQ or AK, and you can bluff him off his hand if you want...

Either way, the way you played it, you're right to get out of the hand...
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Postby bobby » Tue May 24, 2005 10:49 am

I suppose one could write an entire book on how to play JJ !!

FWIW, my "normal" play is a re-raise pre flop here...Either way, you got your information at roughly the same cost...The guy was solid and you were in good shape chip wise, so I see no reason to push any harder with JJ...If you were short stacked or he was a maniac, the play might be different...

He is probably going to play AK the exact same way, but it is too early and you have enough chips to fight in a better position...

You used a different style than I would have, but I think it was a good play...

I was thinking---I probably play JJ in a different fashion darn near everytime I get it!!
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