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Postby stickdude » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:50 pm

No real reads on villian...

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $114.92
Brolyan: $25.30
UTG+2: $30.70
MP1: $19.56
MP2: $47.15
MP3: $21.25
CO: $29.43
Button: $81.85
SB: $26.50
BB: $25

Pre-flop: (10 players) Brolyan is UTG+1 with [Ad] [Qd] [Qs] [2c]
UTG calls, Brolyan calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: [Kc] [Qc] [5s] ($1.75, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Brolyan bets $1.7, UTG+2 folds, MP2 raises to $6.4, 4 folds, Brolyan ????.

Is this an insta-fold here with 2nd set?
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Postby briachek » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:57 pm

unless he is an utter moron, i fold. A hand that is willing to raise pot on that flop either has top set or many outs against you and it will likely cost you the entire stack to find out.
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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:57 am

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:08 am

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:10 am

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Postby stickdude » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:19 am

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Postby briachek » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:02 pm

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:53 am

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Postby Kuso » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:21 am

wwcrd?

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Postby briachek » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:37 am

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Postby Kuso » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:43 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:53 am

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Postby briachek » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:40 pm

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Postby Kuso » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:28 pm

bri, my point about the plo8 was simply that i've seen people jam with a nut flush draw despite the fact that there was a possibillity of chopping with a low (sometimes even with two cards to the low on the board).

i ain't hatin', i'm just sayin'.

regardless, i'm REALLY surprised that you give raises this much respect at the party 25s. you have A LOT more experience than me at those specific tables, but i just don't see it unless i have a read that tells me otherwise. i do recall folding second set a few times and completely cursing myself when villain turned up top two, bottom set, etc. this is both at party and cryptos. maybe i'm projecting cryptos memories onto party... i dunno.

i do agree, though, that the raise does make top set a more likely holding within villain's range. but still...

regardless, i'll defer to your experience.
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