I haven't played this game in years.

[Xaston]

And when I did, it was a 50 BB max buyin game. How'd I do?



WARNING: Multiple hands without converter, simply ignore thread if these bother you (P.S. I use the Bison hand converter, what converter should I use, next time, for PLO)





Hand #1 super standard fold the nuts?

$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 01:52:54 ET 2006
Table Table 95223 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 7: PokerJim223 ( $1239.12 )
Seat 9: Xaston ( $672 )
Seat 3: hailrain ( $910.33 )
Seat 2: oscarte ( $197.20 )
Seat 6: jojoletsgo ( $452.51 )
Seat 8: AKQ89 ( $469.45 )
Seat 5: KCMark ( $123.67 )
Seat 4: DontFearDaReaper ( $406 )
Seat 1: Do_Nutz ( $416.25 )
Seat 10: JLED1111 ( $200 )
Xaston posts small blind [$2].
JLED1111 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 3s 5d Ts Kd ]
Do_Nutz calls [$4].
oscarte folds.
hailrain folds.
DontFearDaReaper calls [$4].
KCMark folds.
jojoletsgo folds.
PokerJim223 calls [$4].
AKQ89 folds.
Xaston calls [$2].
JLED1111 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Jh, Qh ]
Xaston checks.
JLED1111 checks.
Do_Nutz bets [$19].
DontFearDaReaper folds.
PokerJim223 raises [$76].
Xaston folds.



Hand #2 Two pair + Nut flush draw, let's see if I can beat your straight?

***** Hand History for Game 3983287811 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 01:42:23 ET 2006
Table Table 95207 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: lilili74li ( $251.80 )
Seat 10: Xaston ( $1284.94 )
Seat 2: hailrain ( $428.74 )
Seat 7: DontFearDaReaper ( $666.51 )
Seat 6: jkudi ( $102.88 )
Seat 8: Do_Nutz ( $355.54 )
Seat 5: JLED1111 ( $217 )
DontFearDaReaper posts small blind [$2].
Do_Nutz posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 6s 9c Ad 3d ]
Xaston calls [$4].
lilili74li raises [$18].
hailrain folds.
JLED1111 folds.
jkudi folds.
DontFearDaReaper calls [$16].
Do_Nutz folds.
Xaston calls [$14].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 3h, 2c ]
DontFearDaReaper checks.
Xaston bets [$55.10].
lilili74li calls [$55.10].
DontFearDaReaper folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
Xaston bets [$165.20].
lilili74li is all-In [$178.70]
Xaston calls [$13.50].


Hand #3 I HAVE THE ACE HIGH STRAIGHT!!!!

***** Hand History for Game 3982984928 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 01:07:26 ET 2006
Table Table 95223 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 7: PokerJim223 ( $1032.30 )
Seat 9: Xaston ( $378 )
Seat 3: hailrain ( $556 )
Seat 5: AlphaJedi ( $669.50 )
Seat 8: Fazo_ ( $320 )
hailrain posts small blind [$2].
AlphaJedi posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ Jd Kh Ah Tc ]
PokerJim223 calls [$4].
Fazo_ calls [$4].
Xaston raises [$22].
hailrain folds.
AlphaJedi calls [$18].
PokerJim223 calls [$18].
Fazo_ calls [$18].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 5d, 7s ]
AlphaJedi checks.
PokerJim223 checks.
Fazo_ bets [$88].
Xaston folds.


Hand #4 Blast the turn again? Check to control the pot unless they just made a higher boat?


***** Hand History for Game 3982939966 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 01:02:19 ET 2006
Table Table 95223 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: PokerJim223 ( $1262.60 )
Seat 9: Xaston ( $467.10 )
Seat 3: hailrain ( $399.70 )
Seat 5: AlphaJedi ( $354 )
hailrain posts small blind [$2].
AlphaJedi posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 5d 6c 4h Jd ]
PokerJim223 calls [$4].
Xaston calls [$4].
hailrain calls [$2].
AlphaJedi checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 5c, 6s ]
hailrain bets [$15.20].
AlphaJedi calls [$15.20].
PokerJim223 calls [$15.20].
Xaston raises [$91.20].
hailrain folds.
AlphaJedi calls [$76].
PokerJim223 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
AlphaJedi checks.
Xaston bets [$226.80].
AlphaJedi is all-In [$258.80]
Xaston calls [$32].


hand #5 I've got a wrap, play it stronger?

***** Hand History for Game 3982892544 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 00:56:35 ET 2006
Table Table 95207 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: lilili74li ( $248.20 )
Seat 3: CFHRebel ( $797.89 )
Seat 4: harrogate ( $460.22 )
Seat 5: buzzbomber1 ( $239.58 )
Seat 8: ISVEIKATA ( $221.66 )
Seat 9: veepster ( $443.54 )
Seat 10: Xaston ( $1093.38 )
Seat 2: hailrain ( $410.30 )
Seat 7: DontFearDaReaper ( $400 )
Seat 6: jkudi ( $129.40 )
Xaston posts small blind [$2].
lilili74li posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 4h As 3c 5d ]
>You have options at Table 95223 (No DP) Table!.
hailrain folds.
CFHRebel calls [$4].
harrogate calls [$4].
buzzbomber1 calls [$4].
jkudi calls [$4].
DontFearDaReaper calls [$4].
ISVEIKATA folds.
>You have options at Table 95247 (No DP) Table!.
veepster calls [$4].
Xaston calls [$2].
lilili74li checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, Qd, 2c ]
>You have options at Table 95223 (No DP) Table!.
Xaston checks.
lilili74li checks.
CFHRebel checks.
harrogate bets [$16.15].
>You have options at Table 95223 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 95247 (No DP) Table!.
buzzbomber1 folds.
jkudi folds.
DontFearDaReaper folds.
veepster folds.
Xaston calls [$16.15].
>You have options at Table 95247 (No DP) Table!.
lilili74li folds.
CFHRebel folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
>You have options at Table 95247 (No DP) Table!.
Xaston checks.
harrogate bets [$16.73].
Xaston calls [$16.73].
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
Xaston checks.
>You have options at Table 95247 (No DP) Table!.
harrogate bets [$64.52].
Xaston folds.

Hand #6 GAMBLE GAMBLE

***** Hand History for Game 3982870336 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 00:53:54 ET 2006
Table Table 95207 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: lilili74li ( $396.20 )
Seat 3: CFHRebel ( $815.89 )
Seat 4: harrogate ( $478.22 )
Seat 5: buzzbomber1 ( $269.58 )
Seat 8: ISVEIKATA ( $239.66 )
Seat 9: veepster ( $451.54 )
Seat 10: Xaston ( $728.38 )
Seat 2: hailrain ( $410.30 )
Seat 7: DontFearDaReaper ( $400 )
Seat 6: jkudi ( $111 )
ISVEIKATA posts small blind [$2].
veepster posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ As 9s Td Kd ]
Xaston calls [$4].
lilili74li raises [$18].
hailrain folds.
CFHRebel calls [$18].
harrogate calls [$18].
buzzbomber1 calls [$18].
jkudi folds.
DontFearDaReaper calls [$18].
ISVEIKATA calls [$16].
veepster folds.
Xaston raises [$144].
lilili74li calls [$130].
CFHRebel folds.
harrogate folds.
buzzbomber1 folds.
DontFearDaReaper calls [$130].
ISVEIKATA folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 8d, 7s ]
Xaston bets [$517].
lilili74li folds.
DontFearDaReaper folds.
Xaston does not show cards.
Xaston wins $1034



Hand #7 Well I do have a full house???

***** Hand History for Game 3982832881 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 00:49:32 ET 2006
Table Table 95207 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: lilili74li ( $400.20 )
Seat 3: CFHRebel ( $819.89 )
Seat 4: harrogate ( $490.22 )
Seat 5: buzzbomber1 ( $197.78 )
Seat 8: ISVEIKATA ( $243.66 )
Seat 9: veepster ( $411.94 )
Seat 10: Xaston ( $829.78 )
Seat 2: hailrain ( $386 )
Seat 7: DontFearDaReaper ( $400 )
Seat 6: jkudi ( $123 )
buzzbomber1 posts small blind [$2].
jkudi posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ Ts As Td 8d ]
DontFearDaReaper folds.
ISVEIKATA folds.
veepster calls [$4].
Xaston calls [$4].
lilili74li calls [$4].
hailrain folds.
CFHRebel folds.
harrogate calls [$4].
buzzbomber1 calls [$2].
jkudi checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 8s, 9d ]
buzzbomber1 checks.
jkudi checks.
veepster checks.
Xaston checks.
lilili74li checks.
harrogate checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
buzzbomber1 checks.
jkudi checks.
veepster checks.
Xaston bets [$22.80].
lilili74li folds.
harrogate folds.
buzzbomber1 calls [$22.80].
jkudi folds.
veepster folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
buzzbomber1 bets [$66.60].
Xaston calls [$66.60].

[stickdude]

Hand 1 - fold pre-flop. But since you hit the perfect flop, fold after that raise - you're most likely looking at someone with a nut straight + FD, so even if you dodge bullets on the turn and river, you only chop. Nice laydown - lots of Omaha newbies will lose a stack on exactly this kind of flop.

[stickdude]

Hand 2 - looks good. He's not playing this like a straight. It feels more like a pair of Aces with a 2/3/5, and he's hoping for a 4 to hit.

[stickdude]

Hand 3 - he might as well flip over his set of Queens now. You've got backdoor straight and flush draws, but I don't know if you want to call off 1/3 of your stack just to see one more card... I'd probably lay this one down as well. You needed to hit the flop a little bit harder than you did.

[briachek]

[Aisthesis]

hand 1: No problem from me with the limp. Without a read I lay it down. With a read, I'm capable of pushing here.

hand 2: I do lay this one down because of the raise (more on that issue in a second), but I like your subsequent play.

I haven't made it through the rest of them, but I really have a question back at you here: Perhaps as background, I should note that I've started limping in LP with almost anything and with a lot in MP (depends mainly on how the table is playing--specifically whether I'm likely going to face a raise, in which case I tighten up a lot on the limps). But I can get pretty picky about hands for calling raises, although it depends on several factors, which I'll try to discuss, in the hope of seeing whether my thinking is going in the right direction.

Anyhow, as I see it, on this hand pretty much all you've got is your AXs, although there's a little bit of bonus there with some straight possibilities. But what I've been doing here is just counting about what percentage of the time I'm going to hit the flop hard. With AXs it's around 12% of the time. Hence, I feel like I'm bleeding away too much before hitting the hand if I do more than limp (and I'll routinely limp with any single-suited ace).

So, basically, I'd rather have what I've started thinking of as a "25% hand," such as a big pair with a suited A (12% or so for set, 12% for flush draw, and overpair also interesting particularly if it's AA or KK). Also, short-handed, as is the case here, any ds hand is also a 25%-er--if you're willing to play a non-nut flush pretty hard, as I think is acceptable with only 2 or 3 players seeing the flop.

Then I guess there's one other dimension: Is the player going to pay me off big when I hit? If not, then I can at least see some rationale in calling the raise with your hand here--with the intention of betting pretty much any pair, although there's a little bit of a problem in that your A may be dead. If they WILL overplay their AA or whatever, then I think big pairs become a lot more attractive, even if they have effectively no side cards, simply because of the implied odds on setting.

Anyhow, that's my current view with regard to limping (where I seriously don't think it's a mistake to limp with almost any 4--perhaps excluding trips or quads, which I don't limp with under any circumstances) and calling raises (where I really do think one needs to get much more picky). I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning, though, on calling the raise with this particular hand. For me it would be a clear limp but not a hand where I'd call a raise--unless I was maybe in LP and the entire table had called the raise to me, giving phenomenal odds on hitting the flush draw.

[Aisthesis]

hand 3 is fairly straightforward

hand 4: I like your play here. There's just not much you can do if they have T6 (or TT with a 6), and I can't see giving a free card on that one, since every additional card is going to hurt your hand unless it's super-low (or a J).

[Aisthesis]

hand 5: I think checkraising is at least an option to consider, although I play it the way you did more often than not. The advantage of the check-raise is that you're really repping QQ here, and the LP bettor is pretty likely to be weak.

I'd like to have a read on that one, though. If your table image is pretty strong, I think the check-raise is probably better. If you've been making some plays, then I prefer playing this one the way you did.

[Aisthesis]

hand 6 I really like, although almost never have the cojones to attempt that re-raise--great play, though.

[Aisthesis]

hand 7 I wouldn't have messed with. I see too many players who love to trap with their trips, which in this case may have turned into quads. My personal criterion here is that I have to have either quads or AA. Once you've bet it and get called, I'd only call the river if the guy is very bluffy. There's not a lot here that you really beat (I guess an 8), and it's very ballsy of him to bet the river unless he knows you don't have the case 9.