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Postby Xaston » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:24 am

Call and see a turn or get it all in on the flop and see both cards?

***** Hand History for Game 3986907761 *****
$400 PL Omaha - Saturday, April 15, 12:56:37 ET 2006
Table Chetan Dude (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Chubby_Tran ( $362.90 )
Seat 2: poker200 ( $101.90 )
Seat 3: anclepeter ( $331.20 )
Seat 4: BlueOcean81 ( $1639.18 )
Seat 6: hailrain ( $386 )
Seat 7: danny28288 ( $371.20 )
Seat 8: maresch66 ( $313 )
Seat 9: OTMA3KA ( $391.20 )
Seat 10: AKQ89 ( $372.60 )
Seat 5: Xaston ( $519.30 )
maresch66 posts small blind [$2].
OTMA3KA posts big blind [$4].
Chubby_Tran is sitting out.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Xaston [ 8s 6c Tc Jh ]
AKQ89 folds.
poker200 folds.
anclepeter calls [$4].
BlueOcean81 calls [$4].
Xaston raises [$16].
hailrain folds.
danny28288 folds.
maresch66 calls [$14].
OTMA3KA folds.
anclepeter folds.
BlueOcean81 calls [$12].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 9h, 3d ]
maresch66 bets [$53.20].
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Postby Ojingo » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:05 pm

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Postby Kuso » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:17 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Xaston » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:35 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Kuso » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:43 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Ojingo » Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:51 pm

Safe meaning no board pair, no flush.
Rest of the hand depends on whether the turn is played HU or three way. If it is three way, I'd simply play the odds on the turn. If it's HU you get to play poker.
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Postby Aisthesis » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:16 am

I think I like calling here, too, mainly in order to see what BlueOcean does, but I'm not really sure.

I'm also not sure how to deal with the flush possibility either in a 3-way pot. It actually seems to me like only one of the possible holdings for your opponent.

I have real trouble playing this kind of situation, anyway. Seems to me like he could have just an overpair, could have a wrap similar to yours, but most likely including at least the 9, could have a wrap with flush draw (certainly not good) or overpair with flush draw, could also have 99.

I tend to think that the flat call also gives you more flexibility in terms of using your positional advantage, although that can be a bit dubious against a tricky opponent. Anyhow, I don't see how flat calling actually should exclude something like 97 or even 99 from your own possible holdings.

What I'm really wondering about is bluffing the turn here if it's checked to you after the board pairs or a flush card hits, but I guess this really depends enormously on your table image. If your image is right, I think it's probably worth taking a shot at it in either case--maybe half-pot on a paired board and full pot if the flush card hits (assuming a check). I think you might even raise the turn if it's an offsuit 4--or obviously, if you make your hand.

Is this too aggressive?

Anyhow, I think the raise leaves no room for additional play here, hence doesn't allow optimal use of your positional advantage vs. the bettor.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:33 am

The Monkman J[c]

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