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Postby JDLush » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:21 pm

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Postby Kuso » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:15 pm

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby JDLush » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:49 pm

I can post some of my category stats here, maybe that will help. There is a ton of overlap here, so don't go too crazy over analyzing it. There are 23000+ hands in this year's DB.

4 different wheel cards - 1.01 bb/hand
Sixes - .43 bb/hand (this includes any 4 low hand with a 6 in it, a567 is the worst)
Any 4 wheel cards - 1.76 bb/hand
AA2x - 1.74 bb/hand
Aces & babies - 4.15 bb/hand (aa plus 2 lows both < 6)
Aces & biggies - 1.7 bb/hand (AAKK down to AAJT)
Aces - 1.99 bb/hand (any AA hand)
BIg Deuces - 1.3 bb/hand (AKQ2,AKJ2,AKT2,AQJ2,AQT2,AJT2)
Acey Deucey - .68 bb/hand (any A2 hand)
7, 8, 9 - negative .03bb/hand (every hand containing a 7,8, or 9)
All high cards - .02 bb/hand (TJQK,TJQA,JQKA,TJKA,TQKA)
23 hands - negative .05 bb/hand - all 23xx hands
234 hands - .40 bb/hand

Funniest one of the bunch - AA23 - had it 6 times, net negative 6.32 bb/hand. Only won 50% of those hands :)

Almost all my top bb/hand hands are AAxx (no surprise there), however my worst hand is AAAA (another non-shocker, lol), but 2nd worst is AA4T.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:53 pm

wwcrd?

"that basically sums up poker for me - 12" needle in the testicle." <nutkick> mvp
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Postby JDLush » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:29 am

Nope, this includes blinds and shorthanded/heads up play. I can recrunch with those, and I'm going to pull the same stats from last year's DB which has a bazillion more hands. in some cases I'm sure I don't have enough hands to really get a true sense of their value (ie aa23).

Forgot to mention that of my 10 worst hands, 4 are AA hands, but none are AALL hands, with the exception of AA23 (#6 on the list IIRC).

In the book that got me into O8, by Ken Warren, he says if you fold every hand containing a 7,8, or 9 that you'd increase your hourly rate. It sure looks like he was right.

i find it interesting that Big Deuces is more profitable than all A2 hands. I'd figure that the A2 with lows would be better, but I guess the Big Deuces have a better shot at scooping high, offsetting the lack of counterfeit protection.

Obviously I will (and I think I probably do already) get as much of my stack in as possible with any Aces & Babies hand. Them bitches got some game, yomsayin?
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