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Postby MadManc » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:56 pm

After this hand the whole table started to congratulate semsem on his great call, i said " lol yeah worst call ever" and they all berated me for being a sore loser etc so i left it at that, but it got me thinking afterwards, semsem had won a few pots recently with good hands, every time he bet them hard, i just "knew" he was weak here, my game is mainly hoh(M) based but im pretty aggresive, i hadnt played a pot here for at least 15 minutes.

I know my play is bad at best and i should be looking for spots to get it in first and should fold preflop or a preflop raise is better if i think he's weak here, but im convinced his play is worse than mine, someone even said i should have bet the flop if im going to bluff here but if i have A10, 1010, 99, 88 my play is exactly the same on the flop.

im 19 with 39 left.

PokerStars Game #8426045814: Tournament #42930687, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/02/13 - 18:02:42 (ET)
Table '42930687 12' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: jchenck (6736 in chips)
Seat 2: ActionManc (5650 in chips)
Seat 3: Mister Lion (4865 in chips)
Seat 4: lovelyrita_1 (5834 in chips)
Seat 5: nasaboy98 (3505 in chips)
Seat 6: bananaman31 (6385 in chips)
Seat 8: Feragho (8720 in chips)
Seat 9: semsem007 (10033 in chips)
jchenck: posts the ante 25
ActionManc: posts the ante 25
Mister Lion: posts the ante 25
lovelyrita_1: posts the ante 25
nasaboy98: posts the ante 25
bananaman31: posts the ante 25
Feragho: posts the ante 25
semsem007: posts the ante 25
jchenck: posts small blind 200
ActionManc: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ActionManc [3h As]
Mister Lion: folds
lovelyrita_1: folds
nasaboy98: folds
bananaman31: folds
Feragho: folds
semsem007: raises 400 to 800
jchenck: folds
ActionManc: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [9h Ts 8c]
ActionManc: checks
semsem007: bets 1200
ActionManc: raises 3625 to 4825 and is all-in
semsem007: calls 3625
*** TURN *** [9h Ts 8c] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [9h Ts 8c Tc] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ActionManc: shows [3h As] (a pair of Tens)
semsem007: shows [8h Ac] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
semsem007 collected 11650 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11650 | Rake 0
Board [9h Ts 8c Tc 2d]
Seat 1: jchenck (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ActionManc (big blind) showed [3h As] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: Mister Lion folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lovelyrita_1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: nasaboy98 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bananaman31 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Feragho folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: semsem007 (button) showed [8h Ac] and won (11650) with two pair, Tens and Eights
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Postby MTPaid » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:24 pm

There are also a lot of hands he's way behind or even drawing dead too. QJ, AT, JT, QT could all do that. What does he beat now? KQ/KJ which have a lot of outs or a total bluff. Original raiser only put in 2000 or 1/5 his stack and still needs to call about 3625 more. I don't like the bluff because that is a flop that a lot of hands hit, but I really don't like the call with A8 either. I don't think he's committed.

If you were going to push that hand, you might be better off doing it preflopor looking for a more ragged flop. I think I just fold this hand and let him have it. I would call a min-raise with almost any hand if the blinds were smaller, but they're big enough here that I'd probably just fold even against a steal and look for a better spot to try and double up.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:30 pm

There is so much bluffing going on nowadays players are calling with any pair for a trny life. middle pair bottom piar are pocket pair they are calling the hand down.
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