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Good call on the flop?

Postby Trons » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:55 pm

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (10 handed) from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8Image, 9Image. MP2 posts a blind of $0.10. MP3 posts a blind of $0.10.
4 folds, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 (poster) checks, Hero calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Wasn't sure about the call here, but the 3 to my left had been playing passively for the 12 hands I'd been at the table...didn't really expect a raise from them...

Flop: (6 SB) 7Image, 2Image, 5Image (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, BB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Ok, I counted my outs at 4-6's the 2 over cards (counted 1.5 outs for each) and 1.5 for the back door flush giving me 8.5 outs...I figured I had the odds to call...Comments?

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6Image (5 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, MP2 calls.

Since the flop aggressor sat to my left, I thought this was a great place to check raise for value...I have the nuts and with the possible FD (didn't give it too much credit because of the flop action)

River: (13.50 BB) AImage (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 8c 9c (straight, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB.
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Postby SebQtaneus » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:01 pm

I'd probably peel one there like you did since you're in the CO and there aren't any huge draws out there.
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Postby Zuccala » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:05 pm

You have good position and and thats a great place to peel one off. As long as you think the raiser is not gonna take the free card on the turn, then I love the C/R.
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Postby antneye » Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:27 pm

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Postby emmasdad » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:48 am

I would def. donk the turn. It is way to risky to go for the c/r here against the field imo.

I think you are overcounting your outs on the flop, but even with only 4.5 outs (gutty + BDFD) you can peel here.
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Postby MecosKing » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:41 am

Meh...i dont mind his overcard outs that bad...ranges here are so wide theres really no telling what anyone has, but his cards are not exactly they type that are dominated at any rate. Then again, his outs could make someone 2pr or a straight, or button coulda limped an middleish-highpair (99/TT,JJ are pretty obvious limps in this pot id think), or even have a set, so who the hell knows...anyone that thnks they can put mizors on hand ranges in a pot like this is pretty much fooling themselves...

Either way i agree with emmasnoob that this is an obvious peel.

I also agree that the CR was bad. Pulling the CR off was a major coup, but whiffing it would have been the worst disaster in history, and im thinkin button is gonna check lots of marginal stuff behind here, with a field of 1000000 mizors. Also, a monster field CR like that will scare off most players that aren't complete fucking retards, even if they have good hands (apparently these players were fucking retards so go fig)
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