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Postby briachek » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:05 pm

Villain is a muppet. How do you play this turn and after if you continue.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Jc], [Js].
7 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) [6h], [7h], [9c] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) [8s] (3 players)
Hero ????

I figure this card may give him the straight only if he chased a gutshot, not an open ended draw. Do you go to check fold mode automatically here? bet out and hope for a fold?
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Postby briachek » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:07 pm

This hand too. Same questions and same type of opponent. What are the actions on the turn and river?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Kh], [Kd].
7 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) [Td], [Jd], [4h] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) [Ac] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) [Qd] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 8h 9h (straight, queen high).
Hero has Kh Kd (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.50 BB.


thoughts about the river?
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Postby SideSwipe » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:18 am

1) I'm done with that hand with 2 players to act. Check-fold for me.

2) With a potential flush out there too, calling would be my option too. What would a raise achieve?
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Postby Nortonesque » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:58 am

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Postby piersmajestyk » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:31 am

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Postby digital scar » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:54 am

Hand 1: I would not be to worried about the gut shot. It is less likely that one of them has J 10 because you hold 2 Jacks in your hand. The button could have been raiseing pre flop with a weak Ace or some kind of paint. I think you have to bite the bullet and bet the turn and see where it goes from there.

Hand 2: I don't think you can play that hand any better.
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Postby briachek » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:26 pm

results on hand 1. I bet and he raised. Pretty much getting odds to chase my gutshot I called and then check fold on the river. The guy wasn't really solid but I'm not ahead of any hand but A9. Everything else beats me so folding seems the right thing.
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Postby MecosKing » Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:29 am

First hand: Agree with piers 100%- bet and fold if raised. If hes a good enough player to make that raise with a hand that does not beat you (like one crappie pair) then kudos to him. He probably figures you for an overpair, so who knows? But you say he's a muppet, and muppets dont generally make moves like that, and if he does, then ifs time to think about reclassifying him as a LAG/Maniac rather than a muppet.

I think that i would fold rather than go for the gutshot, and if i did go for the gutshot, id probably throw another bet in there on the river just to see what kind of mizorly crap he plays for all those preflop bets, then proceed to flame him for playin 103s. Im not a huge fan of the bet/call/fold...Id either bet/call/call or bet/fold.

SEcond hand was perfect. Raising is tempting, but usually if he bets there, your most likely chopping, and possibly losing, so ...yeah.
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