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Postby briachek » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:13 pm

Don't play this like me. Very first hand of the night which gave me a glimpse of how the night was gonna go. Should have just stopped here

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ah], [As].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO raises, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) [Ac], [Kc], [3h] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button raises, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) [2c] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Button folds, Hero raises, CO calls.

River: (13.75 BB) [9c] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah As (three of a kind, aces).
CO has Qc Ks (flush, ace high).
Outcome: CO wins 17.75 BB.


Despite the guy overplaying his KQ, I think I still played the hand worse as I was trying to get tons of money in the pot rather than protect my hand and then played blind to what he could have. I put him on AK and never changed my view of it. Just ugly. Read and learn. If I had check raised the flop, I might have gotten him to fold his powerhouse backdoor flush draw.
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Postby Tiburon » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:54 am

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Postby Xaston » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:15 am

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Postby briachek » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:09 am

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Postby digital scar » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:46 am

Well for what's it worth he is my 2 cents:

Pre flop: fine

Flop: You gotta raise that dude, I think you know that, the CO raised pre-flop and is following through with a bet on the flop like he should, CO bet and the button raises after he called 2 bets cold pre-fop, I can't see a smooth call here just to keep the CO in the hand. You have already got the action you want. Check Raise is the best play here in my opinion.

Turn: I like the check, see what the CO does and then what the Button does, if he raises well you are still getting odds to drawing, I think my math is right here. You have 10 outs on the turn w/ 9.75 BB in the pot after the CO bets if the button raises your getting 11.75 to 1, maybe even 12.75 to 1 if the CO calls the raise as well. With your full house draw you are drawing to 10 outs. So even if you are behind you need to be getting atleast 5-1 on the pot which you are getting. I don't think this is way off base but I thought I would try to get a little analytical on this post.

River: I would check call that. I don't see the point in betting. I do understand that you wnt to value bet your good hands and that is why your aggression numbers are so good but I don't think this one of those times to bet on the river. Its a case of your only going to get called by a hand that beats you. By betting you are risking getting raised on the river thus costing you 2 bets on the end where you are not sure if you have the winner instead of just costing yourself 1 bet on the river by check, calling but what the heck to I know.
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Postby Tiburon » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:06 pm

The worst part of that hand for me would be that at no time would laying down my trip aces be even in the discussion. The only way I change that play, like I mentioned was to raise on the flop. Otherwise, Check/call with all those clubs is the only way to go, because I'll be damned if I muck that hand.

I'd lose a lot of money there.
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