I think I mighta fucked this up.

[Xaston]

Villain seems to be a good 5/10 player. Not someone I would avoid at all, but prolly a winner if he game selects.

I don't think I've 4-bet him yet, I certainly haven't 4-bet him a LOT. Similarly he isn't 3-betting me a crazy amount, but he isn't just completely staying out of my way either. This is a good/common spot for people 3-bet because I can be isolating the silly limper quite light.

Obviously the flop is pretty good for me, but I decided I'd be better off checking behind and cramming any of my outs or an A on the turn. Thoughts?

PokerStars Game #16603228919: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2008/04/09 - 13:16:54 (ET)
Table 'Kriemhild' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mindgamer ($995 in chips)
Seat 2: Vonk ($1012 in chips)
Seat 4: ALBRICZHU ($1228.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Xaston ($1015 in chips)
Seat 6: kbp00 ($975 in chips)
kbp00: posts small blind $5
mindgamer: posts big blind $10
Jotschi85: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xaston [Jh Th]
Vonk: folds
ALBRICZHU: calls $10
Xaston: raises $30 to $40
kbp00: raises $110 to $150
mindgamer: folds
ALBRICZHU: folds
Xaston: raises $180 to $330
kbp00: calls $180
*** FLOP *** [2c Qc 9s]
kbp00: checks
Xaston: checks

[MBuckler]

are you checking behind with AA there?

i think the standard line after the 4 bet is to put a c-bet out...esp. being in pos.

say the Kc falls on the turn...i think he picks up a crapload of outs if he didnt turn the effective nuts...

i dunno...i feel like this is semi-fucked up. i dunno that you're going to get check/raised a lot here on the flop.

[Xaston]

MBuckler,

I check behind AA here sparingly, like consuming fats, oils, and sweets.

If I'm betting here, I'm shoving.

If the K of clubs falls here I pick up a crapload of outs, not him.

[GodlikeRoy]

[iceman5]

[ToastedMoses]

I agree on the shove.

Not sure I understand the 4-bet. His 3-bet is large so you show a greater immediate profit when he folds, but it also makes your 4-bet large enough that folding to a shove would probably be incorrect. Further, JThh flops well and I would think it would be a good hand to have in your OOP 3-bet call range (though I don't do a lot of OOP 3-bet calling...)

edit: just realized you are not OOP. The 4-bet makes even less sense to me now. Again, it seems like an ideal spot to defend and just see a flop. If you don't mind please elaborate a bit on why you opted to mix in (i assume) a 4-bet here.

[Triple B]

[hard2tel]

[Xaston]

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[GodlikeRoy]

[dropthe72]

[Xaston]

[GodlikeRoy]

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