Where is there NL Omaha?

[Molina]

[iceman5]

[Martine23]

A good friend of mine plays 3-6NLO high/low and makes a hell of a lot of money doing it. The games at PokerStars are extremely soft and very profitable. I don't have near the experience to sit down at that game but for anyone with decent knowledge of it, it seems to be a very easy game to beat.

[AdamtheExpert]

For live no limit omaha, Hawiaan Gardens casino, in California is now offering this game.

Have not been there to play it, but my contacts report it's a good game.


Also, check out Royal Vegas. I played there a while back, and seem to remember that they had NL omaha, but don't remember for sure (straight high, no prima site offers HL)


Adam

[Felonius_Monk]

Yep, I play NLO and NLO8 regularly. As Adam pointed out,Royal Vegas, a site with GREAT action (especially NL but also PLO high) offers a few NLO tables, though they're generally the short-handed (6 max) ones. If you find a juicy one the chips will be FLYING and you can take down rack after rack of cyberchips, although I prefer 10-max tables myself (less effort and easier to multitable).

Stars offer NLO8 and these tables are also TERRIFIC. Whilst the advantages of NL in omaha high are not that huge, in the split hi/lo game the fact that a lot of fishies will make huge moves with hands that you can pick off by waiting for a big one, and the fact you can put big pressure on marginal highs with your nut low in short-handed pots by making sizeable overbets, makes them very handy. Also, if you find a complete balloon, you can move his chips into your stack much quicker. I'm LOVING the PLO8 tables on Stars this month; as loose as Party/Empire (sometimes, when there's a few loose tables going) and with a more generous blind structure, they're also chock full of very unimaginative beginners who'll call along with average hands and never bluff scattergun flops, letting you pick up a lot of cheap chips. If you want to play O8 online, Party/Empire and Stars are (as far as I can see) the ONLY places to be!

Monk
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[flintsword]

This is my first post here (wild cheering) so it will take some time to figure out the structure of the forum.

I have not seen NL Omaha spread anywhere. I think that Pot Limit puts the money in fast enough so you do not have to worry about increasing the pot. Today a three-way Omaha high pot I participated in started hesitantly but all the money when into the pot anyways. (I had the winning hand, aces full beating a flush and a str8: classic).

So the advantage of NL Omaha is that it allows players with deep pockets to blow other players out of the pot, and may actually penalize better players. Just an opinion, mind you. I am just learning the ropes in Omaha, so I'd like to see some pots instead of deciding on an all-in.

For a player of relatively modest skills, what is the benefit of NL Omaha?

Is it safe to state that most Omaha players have relatively modest skills, looking at the big picture.

flintsword

[Molina]

[Felonius_Monk]

NL omaha high is little different to regular PLO, except that high sets are a bit stronger on the flop on a loose table as you can slightly overbet them to reduce the implied odds of other players. You can also make crunching raises on monster draws to remove players with low sets etc if the table is solid. Other than that, they play the same. The big exception is when there's one or two true loose crazies on the table (i.e. some of the royal vegas 6-handed tables) where the advantage of getting in everything when you have the best hand on the flop can allow you to penalise their crazy play a lot more aggressively. The main reason NLO is not much different to PLO is that, preflop, there's little point in making big raises (bigger than the pot) unless you hold something like AAds because few hands have a big advantage over each other in this game.

Being able to raise a bit more preflop in EP is handy, too, if you have a hand that plays better in short-handed pots, but this is barely a minor consideration, really.

In NLO8 the situation is wholly different because "dominating" situations preflop come around more often, same as on the flop. If you have AA2 or even AA3 you could easily be dominating someone coming into it with just low cards, and thus making massive moves over the top of poor players can get you heads up with something like 65%+ pot equity, which basically never happens in omaha high. Also, you can often get poor players to pay you off for your whole stack if they hold nut low and you hold nut low with a good high, netting you a big 3/4, when normally you could only net it to the size of a pot-sized raise.

Basically, though, the PL and NL games don't differ hugely.

Monk
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