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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:28 am

Ultimate Bet 0.01/0.02 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [8d], [Td]. SB posts a blind of $0.01.
1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB (poster) checks, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) [Ac], [8c], [3h] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: (4 BB) [Qd] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB

I also bet it because of the fold equity at this table and my position, of course.

Even at .01/.02 UB players fold too often. You would be amazed how many times one person bet into a large pot on showdown and all the other four folded.

I thought it'd be fun to play even looser than SSHE's LOOSE-table standards. I played every single suited hand and pocket pair, no matter my position, unless raised. Against raises I only played the better suited connectors, all pocket pairs, and the usual premium hands. By playing this way I only ended up playing 32% of my hands.

I have an extremely small sample, but I'm up 39.5 BB/100 over 200 hands. I also was more aggressive than usual on every street because of the fold equity on these tables.
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Postby Tiburon » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:40 am

It's a fun little experiment. I just think it's actually funny that the 0.01 bet with middle pair got those weak-tight monsters to fold (obviously bluffing the ace), and that the 0.02 bet on the turn finished the remaining guy off (the type that will call a SB and peel one off, but back off to the BB)..

That HH is priceless, if only for that! Nobody has an A, or a Q, or two clubs for that matter? If they had any clue pre-flop, they'd probably actually win some.
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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:02 am

It's weird... at the .01/.02 tables, they are loose-passive pre-flop, and then weak-tight post-flop. It doesn't matter if it's checked to late position player who bets and gives 9:1 odds, they'll fold gutshots, middle pair, bottom pair, top-pair crap kicker, and all these other hands they should be AT LEAST calling with given the situation and odds.

When one of the tables broke apart, I decided I might as well bet every street as long as I had some type of draw. Like this powerful gutshot:

Ultimate Bet 0.01/0.02 Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Tc], [6h]. Hero posts a blind of $0.01.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero (poster) checks, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) [7s], [Jd], [9s] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 2.50 BB
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