C/R middle-pair crap-kicker

[EscapePlan9]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) , , (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) (2 players)
Hero bets...

Just started at the table, so no reads on the players.

Everyone checked to someone in relatively late position and he bet. The pot was fairly large, so I was given 9:1 on my call, which is more than the 8:1 I needed. So why not call?

There were many people to act after me, the pot was large, the bettor could have crap, and I can represent a much stronger hand. All of those together tell me I should be raising and making people face two-bets cold.

When it became heads-up on the turn, I kept up with the aggression. If he raised me here or I didn't improve on the river, I'd fold.

Anyone think I should have played this differently?

[briachek]

i'm impressed by how many people folded the flop. I don't mind this play at all but i'm done after the turn bet.

[MecosKing]

Meh- i htink id probably just peel one to catch trips or bookenders on the turn, and not get aggressive in this pot. Too big a field to have any really decent expectation that your hand is good and/or that your not gonna get called. Id probly save my $ in this one, save the aggression for a pot that doesnt have a bunch of players in it. With no reads, a bettor and a caller and a bunch of people to act behind you, i dont think id put this raise in here. And beleive me, I love raising, but i dont think id have done it here- like i said, you got ace-flop multiway, a bettor from EP, a caller, and like a million people behind you. I just dont think that raise is +EV in the long run...when everyone folds but the bettor and the caller, i dont mind the turn bet TOO much, since everyone folded behind, miraculously, you may have the best hand! Still dont htink id pull this one though.

[EscapePlan9]

The better wasn't in EP. Nearly everyone checked, then he threw in a bet. That doesn't say much.

I wasn't sure if the play was +EV or not either.

[EscapePlan9]

My raise would knock out hands like 77, a 5 with a better kicker, and some gutshot draws maybe, but ace-crap is very likely to stay in at these loose tables.

But! When MP initially bet, he had one person calling. One of them likely has AX of some sort. I think I might have been paying too much with my draw...

[MecosKing]

Whoops! Duh, i see where the bet came from. Hmm. Yeah i dunno. Its marginal, but after seeing where the bet came from its not at all like i thought. Still not sure if id do it or not, as in a pot that is like seven ways or whatever that monstrosity was, ill tend to give someone credit for an A- i dunno...what happened in that one?

[Nortonesque]

Mecos, you're a pretty good poker player but I think your true talent is in misreading hand histories

[EscapePlan9]