Please remind me...

[stickdude]

... that playing 34o is -EV.

Never in a million years would I have thought she flopped the straight, and nothing else looked scary at all. Especially since her VP$P is 84% - meaning that Ax was a very realistic possibility.

Party Poker 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 =#A500AF(Villian)/ calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) , , (8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 folds, Villian raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Villian caps, MP3 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Villian bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (14 BB) (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Villian raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Villian caps, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 5s 5c (three of a kind, fives).
Villian has 3c 4d (straight, five high).
Hero has Ad Qc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Villian wins 26 BB.

[stickdude]

Ok, I've now seen 72o win twice in a row.

[redhouse]

Is UTG+1 just as bad? I'd fold on the river unless they're both total maniacs - the kind who don't like to look at cards because it takes the fun out of the game...

Also, the aggression stats here are more relevant than the VP$IP

[stickdude]

[Nortonesque]

Raise preflop!

[EscapePlan9]

[redhouse]

[redhouse]

[GodlikeRoy]

[stickdude]

So, "raise pre-flop" seems to be the consensus here. AQo is probably right on the border of what I'd consider raising - but then I see that I was on the button here.

Would you guys raise AQo from any position, or just the later positions?

[EscapePlan9]

[Nortonesque]

[Tiburon]

Totally agree with norton, EP9, and everybody else.

I have a 16% VP$IP and a 7% PFR. If I see AQ, it's getting raised, ESPECIALLY first in. From the button, I'm raising first in with pretty much any suited Broadway, any offsuit Broadway connectors (KQ, QJ, JT)--I'm raising with a lot.

AQ is a definite raise for me from the button.

Make the fish pay to make their lucksack hands.

[stickdude]

I wisely got out of this one pre-flop, but MP2 is capping every street with nothing but an OESD!

This is the kind of stuff that just leaves me shaking my head in wonder.

Party Poker 0.15/0.30 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (22.46 SB) , , (5 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 caps, CO calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (19.23 BB) (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, UTG folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 caps, CO calls, MP1 calls.

River: (31.23 BB) (3 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 raises, CO folds, MP1 3-bets, MP2 caps, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 39.23 BB

Results in white below:
MP1 has Js Jc (three of a kind, jacks).
MP2 has Kd Qs (high card, king).
Outcome: MP1 wins 39.23 BB.

[Xaston]

With that many people in capping the flop is very +EV