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Postby Stu82 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:17 am

Stage #213902279: Holdem Normal $1/$2 - 2005-10-28 04:53:14 (ET)
Table: DIANA DR. (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - STACYSMOM999 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 5 - HERMANNHESSE ($93.25 in chips)
Seat 6 - STU82 ($19.75 in chips)
Seat 7 - TPG2AA ($20.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - HORRORHEAD ($55.50 in chips)
Seat 9 - POKERAP100 ($85.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - LADRO ($25.61 in chips)
Seat 2 - TAL_ZERO ($123 in chips)
Seat 3 - MATTHEWDEAN ($48.25 in chips)
HERMANNHESSE - Posts small blind $0.50
STU82 - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to STU82 [5h 7h]
TPG2AA - Folds
HORRORHEAD - Raises $2 to $2
POKERAP100 - Folds
LADRO - Folds
TAL_ZERO - Folds
MATTHEWDEAN - Folds
STACYSMOM999 - Folds
HERMANNHESSE - Folds
STU82 - Calls $1
*** FLOP *** [6s 5s 4d]
STU82 - Checks
HORRORHEAD - Bets $1
STU82 - Calls $1
*** TURN *** [6s 5s 4d] [Ac]
STU82 - Checks
HORRORHEAD - Bets $2
STU82 - Calls $2
*** RIVER *** [6s 5s 4d Ac] [3d]
STU82 - Checks
HORRORHEAD - Bets $2
STU82 - Raises $4 to $4
HORRORHEAD - Calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
STU82 - Shows [5h 7h] (Straight, three to seven)
HORRORHEAD - Mucks
STU82 Collects $17.75 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($18.50) | Rake ($0.75)

The PF raiser had AJo

I was a bit wary of the raiser calling from EP which made me think he had to have AJ or something even better. I figured i would call and take a look at the flop and then went from there. In hindsight i think the only mistake i made is maybe re-raising him on the flop before he hits his Ace. Either way this probably got the most money out of him.
Funny thing is i read Piers post on blind defense today tried it 3 times with marginal hands for 3/3

Anyway thoughts?
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Postby Tiburon » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:58 am

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:23 am

I disagree with Tibs on the counting outs part. You're heads-up so it isn't likely many (or any) of your outs are tainted, so don't go cutting everything in half.
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Postby Tiburon » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:42 am

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Postby EscapePlan9 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:23 am

Even if he has AXs, it has to be of spades. Cutting all those outs in half is ridiculous and I stand by that.

An 8, 3, or 5 is almost a guaranteed winner. It's even unlikely your 7 outs are tainted. This is an early position raiser, so it's unlikely he has something like A8. 100% of the time here at least 8 of your outs are clean. Even if he has AA, you have 8 outs. If he has two spades (and an ace), you still have 6 outs on the OESD, 2 outs with the 5 (the 5s is already on the board), and your 7 outs could still be clean (here's where I agree you can discount the outs slightly).
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Postby Stu82 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:19 pm

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