WWFMD?

[teknipper]

What Would Felonious Monk Do? I knew I made a mistake as soon as I did it in the hand, but I wanted comments about how the hand was played.

First of all, where did I go wrong in the hand. I want to make sure my self analysis is correct.
Also, I wanted suggestion on how to isolate the myself against someone with the made straight no redraw out of position.

I had been at the table for 30 minutes and the BB was playing solid. I felt that the call on the turn would have slowed him down and gotten to a check check showdown if he didnt have the nuts. The bet on the end was similiar to two other hands he played when he bet 3/4 of the pot to get his nut hands paid off.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $157.60
UTG+1: $332.80
MP1: $69.40
MP2: $59.50
MP3: $48.10
CO: $71
Button: $97.50
Hero: $137.15
BB: $438.15

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, Button folds, Hero calls $0.5, BB checks.

Flop: ($6, 6 players)
Hero bets $5.7, BB calls $5.7, 3 folds, CO calls $5.7.

Turn: ($23.1, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $22, CO folds, Hero calls $22.

River: ($67.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $43, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $43 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $67.1

[teknipper]

[briachek]

[Kuso]

i like bri's advice, although i'd BTP (same as i would with the nut flush). that being said, i think your table image also has an impact on the decision (e.g., are people itching to look you up, do you seem like a nut peddler, are you seen as weak-tight, etc.)

my additions...

- i wouldn't call on the turn unless i intended to call on the river. only the helps you.

- the odds he has the nut flush are low given that you have blockers. this suggests that being the aggressor is good, but laying down to heat is not a bad play.

- being OOP in this hand, you might consider checking the flop hoping for a CR on the flop or turn. i think you give up too much playing straightforward here all the time (sometimes is OK) when OOP. a lot depends on the aggressiveness/passiveness of the other players in the hand, so i can't really say whether this comment is really valid or not.

- while i like the humor of your title, i hope you really don't think this way. i may be wrong here, but i think Monk play a sLAGish style that requires quite a bit of odds knowledge and table experience to emulate with success. if you're thinking of Monk the Omaha Teacher, though, then i like the idea.

[Aisthesis]

While I bet pot on a lot of non-nut flushes, I think I'd check-fold this one.

I mean, what are the other two players in this pot supposed to have? Ok, from the flop perspecitve, I suppose they could both have split pots with you or something like that, or one could have a split pot and the other a set maybe. But I think it's SO frequent that one of the other two players is drawing to a nut flush that I just give up on the turn.

As bri said, I'd love having that flush as redraw with lots of action (I'm putting my stack in on the flop given the opportunity), but once it hits with the action the way it is, I think you're simply beat.

I do prefer betting and folding to a raise to check-calling here, but I really like check-folding best of all.

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[Felonius_Monk]

[Kuso]