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Postby Spellbinder » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:08 pm

Still working on my aggression factor and just wanted opinions on the turn play? Did I have enough odds to push knowing i was probably going against a set? My thoughts were if the heart did land I would not get paid off so thought pushing here was the way to go....but am not sure if that is the right play

Thanks

9 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $12.35
UTG+1: $11.65
MP1: $6.50
MP2: $7.30
MP3: $1.55
Hero: $9.20
Button: $4.35
SB: $21.95
BB: $10

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with [Kd] [Ah] [Qd] [Kh]
UTG calls $0.1, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.1, MP2 calls $0.1, MP3 calls $0.1, Hero raises to $0.5, Button folds, SB calls $0.45, BB calls $0.4, UTG calls $0.4, MP1 calls $0.4, MP2 calls $0.4, MP3 folds.

Flop: [4d] [Js] [3h] ($3.1, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: [Th] ($3.1, 6 players)
SB bets $2.95, 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.95, MP2 folds, Hero raises all-in $8.7, SB raises all-in $21.45, MP1 calls all-in $3.05.
Uncalled bets: $12.75 returned to SB.

River: [2h] ($26.5, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $21.1, Sidepot 1: $5.4)


Results: in white


SB: shows [Jh Jd 9c Td] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero: shows [Kd Ah Qd Kh] (a flush, Ace high)
Hero collected $5.10 from side pot
MP1: mucks hand
Hero collected $20.10 from main pot


Final pot: $26.5
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Postby stickdude » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:26 pm

I like it. That's about as strong a draw as you're going to get in PLO -

Any of 3 Aces, 2 Kings, 3 Queens, or 4 9's for the nut straight.

Any of 5 hearts for the nut flush (you don't want a [4h] or [Jh] to hit, and you've already counted the [Qh] and [9h]).

That's 17 clean outs. You'll hit about 1 time in 2.7 times, and between the dead money in the pot and the two players still in, you're getting better than that on your bet. By the time it gets to you, there's already $9 in the pot, so you've almost got proper pot odds for a push from that alone. Add in an additional $11 if both players call your push, and I make that push every time.
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Postby briachek » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:36 pm

I don't like it unless you have fold equity to win the pot on the turn. If you don't think you do, just call and hope others come along to pay you off with lesser flushes or straights. If you put SB on a set, all you are doing it giving him an opportunity to get it heads up with you and he is a favorite. Call and you can get away cheap if you miss and possibly still win a little more on the river if you hit.
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Postby stickdude » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:29 pm

"My name is Inigo Montoya. You cracked my Aces... prepare to die"
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Postby Spellbinder » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:23 pm

Thanks guys!!
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