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My thoughts were to just check the turn through and if I was ahead I would be able to induce a bluff possibly by someone with second pair or worse, calling any river for one bet. I agree I may be losing value bets in these spots if they have a 7, or Ad or a pocket pair.[/quote
But it's going to be REALLY hard for anyone to checkraise you without a made flush, and you have outs to fall back on even if someone has a flush except one particular hand, the Adxd. Betting here may actually get a weak K out. The SB sitting there with K2o may think "well somebody has the flush and I wasn't really sure I was ahead against the raiser anyway, and now I got this guy to act after me and he might raise". The better the player, the more likely they are to fold.
Statistics: Posted by growlers — Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:24 pm
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Assuming both call and don't checkraise you, take the free showdown on the river. It is unlikely anybody is calling on the river with a hand you beat if a blank falls anyway.
The real crux of the issue is that if you check the turn and a river nondiamond blank falls, you really cannot fold to a single river bet, so why not invest that bet on the turn when you have some fold equity, not calling with that bet on the river unsure of your situation?
I think if you didn't have the Qd I still bet the turn and fold to a checkraise because between the K and the flush you are beat 99% of the time if you are checkraised.
So either with Qd or without I think you need to bet the turn but for different reasons.
With the Qd, you have outs to fall back on, without the Qd you can fold to a turn checkraise. Either way bet it.
Statistics: Posted by growlers — Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:28 pm
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Hero is OTB with
![[Qd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
SB is a fish, BB and UTG are sporty fish, and UTG+1 is unknown
UTG and UTG+1 limp, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, limpers call
Flop [ 9 SB)
![[Kd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kd.gif "The King of Diamonds")
![[6d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6d.gif "The Six of Diamonds")
![[5c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5c.gif "The Five of Clubs")
checked to the unknown UTG+1 who bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds,
UTG+1 calls
Turn [ 7.5 BB]
![[8d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8d.gif "The Eight of Diamonds")
checked to hero who checks it through
Statistics: Posted by phytopath — Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:05 am
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