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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-03-21T15:21:12-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=12&t=2115&mode 2005-03-21T15:21:12-06:00 2005-03-21T15:21:12-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2115&p=13174#p13174 <![CDATA[Top pair medium kicker]]> Statistics: Posted by Nortonesque — Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:21 pm


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2005-03-21T14:19:45-06:00 2005-03-21T14:19:45-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2115&p=13148#p13148 <![CDATA[Top pair medium kicker]]>
Thoughts on this?

Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:19 pm


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2005-03-21T12:44:58-06:00 2005-03-21T12:44:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2115&p=13114#p13114 <![CDATA[Top pair medium kicker]]>
People indeed do strange things when their top pair changes into trips, mainly because they reason that the fact that there is now only one jack unaccounted for makes it unlikely that that card is in the hand of their opponents.

But if SB had a jack wouldn't he have decided on the turn whether he thought it was good or not? This is not really a board on which you check-call a turn bet with top pair if you're not sure whether it's good or not. If he had a stronger hand on the turn he would have bet or checkraised, so that means he is on a draw. You can expect to be ahead most of the time here when the straights and flushes miss. It is highly unlikely that that diamond really helped someone. So definitely call a river bet. I might even have raised, thinking that the SB was bluffing the scare card and the CO missed his draw.

Pieter

Statistics: Posted by Hofstra — Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:44 pm


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2005-03-20T22:36:56-06:00 2005-03-20T22:36:56-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2115&p=13055#p13055 <![CDATA[Top pair medium kicker]]>
Preflop: Hero is BB with [Jh], [9d].
5 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) [3s], [4d], [Js] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) [Td] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) [Jd] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Kd 3d (flush, king high).
Hero has Jh 9d (three of a kind, jacks).
CO has Jc Ah (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 11 BB.


Comments on my play here? After he bet out the river, I thought he had a Jack and I might have kicker problems. I see it often that people don't like their top pair after a raise but will just bet out again when another one hits, not believing anyone else could possibly have it. Anyone play this hand any different? I probably should have respected the flop call by the CO more but I didn't have too many hands on him and wasn't sure.

Statistics: Posted by briachek — Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:36 pm


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