2. As previously mentioned always announce your raises when you arent used to live play; but once you get a feel for it just simply say raise, call the bet, then count down your raise behind your cards/the bet line, then just push the chips in. The angle here is to catch a read off your opponent by just saying raise and causing them to feel uncomfortable w/ the anticipation. Also it minimizes the risk of your opponent catching reads off you. You also wont have any "string" issues and get a few seconds to figure out the right number.
3. A little trick in live play: When you are going to raise w/ the nuts...well you want a call use big chips. instead of betting 200 w/ 40 red chips bet 200 w/ 2 black chips or bet 225 w/ 2 black chips and a green. Bad players who dont use math in their games will look at the bet as 3 chips as opposed to 225 or 45 chips as opposed to 225. Obviously a good/math oriented player wont be affected as much, but give it a shot...you'll be surprised how often you'll get the nuts called by midpair.
4. Psychology: online play is all about math, combos, aggression. Its very easy to be aggro and think on your feet when the other guy cant see you, but when you have a 46 year old business manager who makes his living negotiating and interviewing people good luck not getting a little put off. Little known facts about shitty poker players are that they might be stupid at the math of poker, but they will put you off your game beautifully (see #5 for a brutal one). Also dont be afraid to look another player in the eye...do they look bewildered at the hand? where are they looking? where are they're hands? Just remember live cash is a beautiful thing...its people looking to gamble...know your table and pick your spots. Very key piece of advice: if your playing 1/2 at foxwoods you can pretty much give up on bluffing/being aggro; it works like 5% of the time, however if you have top pr beat on the flop, bet your ass off and you'll get payed way better than you ever would online. 1-2 live=.2/.5cent online.
5. Hypnosis: yeah believe it or not you can "hypnotize" people. Scottie Ngyen does it. Be nice to other players cause it's +EV. They'll take a fun/joking tact w/ they're bets, lose more graciously, and be apologetic at a win. Makes things way easier for you w/ your draws or bluffs. Ever had someone cock they're head at you and say "heey buddy" looking all romantic (uncles esp.) and you get a fuzzy feeling in your head (pleasurable) but find it difficult to think clearly? I forget the actual term for it but its a negotiation tactic used by businessmen to get what they want. Its an oedipus/fruedian mommy thing that makes you more trusting/passive.
Sorry for the length, final chapter of this book:
6. Slowrolling: God if you need this post I hate you. Slowrolling is the worst thing you can ever do to someone and I personally want to shoot anyone who does it. I have one strong rule here: if you slowroll someone in my presence im gonna do it to you in the worst way you can ever imagine. 2k pot, all your chips in, you have the 2nd nuts and are super confident. "wow, thats so sick man, jeesus, nice way to lose 1k...I mean look at my hand...OOPS FUDGE YOU SIR"--me
I have more of these but this post is already too long to read unless you really want to learn to play live. GL sirs and Foxwoods has the best cardroom on the planet structurally and size wise....WOODS FTW
Statistics: Posted by chuckwhoolery — Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:36 am
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Statistics: Posted by black_knight6 — Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:41 pm
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A few elaborations, really, on points already made: I do see players putting in the wrong number of chips sometimes (typically less than required, of course) and sleepy dealers missing it. I usually only say something if I'm involved in the pot, but I probably should otherwise, too, as it's a problem that effects the whole table and should be noted.
On showing cards: I had one where a player insisted that I turn over my cards after he rivered a flush on my TP with AK in a pot of over $1,000. I should have just thrown them at the muck (that was a new one for me and very good point) once he turned over his cards. But what I did after that was insist that he turn over his cards on every single hand he wanted to muck, whether I was involved in the pot or not. Anyhow, it was probably a bit of an over-reaction on my part, but there are at least possible reprisals for breaches of etiquette there (I was particularly aggravated due to losing this huge pot anyway, so the insistence on turning over my cards was more than I cared to deal with).
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A couple more points I missed in my last post. Asking to see cards, if you are heads up with somone at showdown you turn over your cards. Villian mucks, NEVER ask to see villians cards. Two reasons for this, it is bad etiquette, you won the pot leave it at that. 2nd if the winner of the pot asks to see the players cards, they will not be touched to the muck first out of rule. If villian missed the fact that he had a flush, or had the same pair as you and folded what should have been a chop pot his cards are stil live. Man are you going to feel like a moron when your pot gets pushed his way.
Never trust dealers 100%. In a lot of places I play I know a lot more about no limit than the dealers. When you go to a casino usually 75 % or so of the tables are limt. Therfore the dealers spend most of their time dealing limit. Never be afaid to question a dealer, of course do it in a nice way. Most good dealers will explain to you if you are wrong. Some dealers get upset when you question them but these dealers are often the ones that make the most mistakes. Dealers work long hours and mental lapses are not unual. When it comes to interpreting rules dont be afraid to call the floorperson if the dealer rules something that you think is wrong.
A couple more things to add to Emmasdads angle shooters post.
One element of team play. Dick is sitting to Johnsons left. Johnson limps, Dick makes a small raise. Comes back arounf the table and Johnson makes a big reraise with AA or KK. I have seen this a bunch of times. Watch for Johnson limping from LP and having Dick bet for him. If it happens a couple of times call the floor.
Covering cards: A lot of people cover their cards on accident. They dont use card protectors and cover their cards with their hands. I have seen quite a few seasoned players do it on purpose. It allows them to see what action is going to happen behind them in a big pot. Again if you see someone doing this call the floor. This isnt considered cheating but it is defaintly bad form.
Statistics: Posted by Rhound50 — Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:34 am
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From the online poker dictionary:
In the following examples, our erudite poker player, Hero, discovers and deals with the nefarious angle shooting of the villians of our story, Dick and Johnson.
The most common angles that Hero runs across:
1. The fake-out muck.
The hand has gone to showdown between Hero and Dick, where the river checked around, and Hero was first to check. It is Hero's turn to show his hand, and Dick announces loudly "I can't win" and raises his cards high in the air as if to send them sailing into the muck. Dick is hoping that Hero will bite, and muck his cards taking Dick's act as a concession of the pot. Dick's cards are live untill they hit the muck or are killed by the dealer. Hero would never fall for this.
2. The calling of action out-of-turn.
It is Hero's turn to act on his hand on 4th street. Dick is on a flush draw. Dick calls out a bet. Hero checks, intending to call (or check-raise) Dick's bet. Dick checks behind, receiving a free card. In most casinos, actions called out of turn are not binding. Hero ingores actions called out of turn, and points out that he will not fall for such antics, calling Dick by name.
3. The short-the-pot call.
Dick does not want to make a full bet when he calls Hero's bet. He shorts the pot by as much as he thinks he can get away with. Unobservant dealers sweep the call into the pot, and Dick gets off cheap. Hero guards against this by watching Dick's bet if he suspects Dick is doing this, and performs an occaisonal audit of the pot by counting it as he stacks his pot to make sure that it is not short. If Hero finds it is short, it may not be Dick that is shorting the pot. The Dealer may be palming a chip when pushing the pot. It pays for Hero to pay attention.
4. The short-the-pot splash.
Related to the short-the-pot call, Dick takes his not quite sufficient amount of chips to call the bet, and launches them into the pot. Without the dealer counting out the pot at that moment, it is not possible to determine if Dick made a sufficient contribution to the pot. Hero should insist that the dealer stop the action, count down the pot, and make sure that Dick understands that Hero will do that every time Dick splashes the pot.
5. The protect-or-inflate-Dick's-friend-Johnson's-pot raise
Dick has been playing just to the left of his friend, Johnson. It is pre-flop and there are two limpers to Johnson, who raises. Dick re-raises with air to protect Johnson's hand. Hero does not put up with this crap. If this happens with any type of frequency, Hero calls the floor over and asks the floor to look at Dick's cards the next time it happens. If the floor refuses to do this, Hero racks up and leaves.
I am sure that there are more that others have run across, some just involving Dick, others involving Dick and some Johnson. Feel free to add to this list.
And never, ever, be a Dick. Hero has a bad habit of waiting for Dicks in the parking lot.
Statistics: Posted by emmasdad — Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:02 am
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