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Let's say the board develops as it does. Ok, I check-call the flop, then EP pots into me. Now I have non-nut straight with 4 outs to fill up and 2 clubs on the board.
I suppose I can call the turn yet again and the river as well. My hand turns out to be right at middle of the road for what "might be good" in any case. On the other hand, if a club hits or the board pairs (except for my own boat), I guess it's risky for EP to put anything in on the river OOP without having it himself.
Is that your line anyway? Flat call the flop (even though I think the raiser has at best some overpair), then call that particular turn (obviously any turn where I have the nuts)? Raise a turn with nuts and redraw (such as making one of my runner-runner flushes as well as the nut straight)?
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:04 pm
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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $2 BB (9 handed)
CO ($198.90)
Button ($190.60)
SB ($268.10)
BB ($198)
Hero ($267.50)
UTG+1 ($143.90)
MP1 ($130.85)
MP2 ($57)
MP3 ($194)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
, ![[Jh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
, ![[Td]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Td.gif "The Ten of Diamonds")
, ![[7d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7d.gif "The Seven of Diamonds")
. Hero calls $2, UTG+1 raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.
Flop: ($34)
![[8c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
, ![[Th]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Th.gif "The Ten of Hearts")
, ![[4d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4d.gif "The Four of Diamonds")
(4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $20, CO folds, SB calls $20, Hero raises to $112.3, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $92.30.
Turn: ($278.60)
![[9c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
(2 players)SB bets $147.8 (All-In), Hero calls $147.20 (All-In).
River: ($573.60)
![[6h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
(2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: $573.60
Results in white below:
SB has 6s 9s 4h 7h (straight, ten high).
Hero has 9h Jh Td 7d (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins $573. SB wins $0.60.
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:10 pm
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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $2 BB (9 handed)
CO ($198.90)
Button ($190.60)
SB ($268.10)
BB ($198)
Hero ($267.50)
UTG+1 ($143.90)
MP1 ($130.85)
MP2 ($57)
MP3 ($194)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with
, , , . Hero calls $2, UTG+1 raises to $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.
Flop: ($34)
, , (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $20, CO folds, SB calls $20, Hero raises to $112.3, UTG+1 folds, SB calls $92.30.
Turn: ($278.60)
(2 players)SB bets $147.8 (All-In), Hero calls $147.20 (All-In).
River: ($573.60)
(2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: $573.60
My reasoning on the push is this: Raiser looks to me like an overpair, to which I'm probably ahead if I don't have to pay on each street. If he calls, he really has almost nothing left to protect his hand on the turn.
EP looks to me like he's on a draw, but I think mine is probably better. Moreover, I do have at least a pair already.
Actually, the most difficult part of this hand was the call on the turn without the nut straight (actually, I think one might add overstraighting to Goop's list of profitable situations), but mine also isn't the worst. Moreover, I now have 2 pair, which at least gives me 4 outs to fill up if I'm behind (not liking the situation of being behind, but at least I'm not drawing completely dead here).
Oh, I should also add that the full stack betting into me on the turn also seemed to me a little over-aggressive. I had made a nut straight on the turn a few hands before. He called my bet on the turn, along with one other (who I think had a split pot with me), and then potted it on a paired river. I folded that one, so I don't know what he had. But I felt like he was willing to make some buy attempts on scary-looking boards.
Hopefully the hand converter will make this all nice and pretty...
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:04 pm
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