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You do, however, have to worry that he could have something like a set with a flush draw (which would often be played in a similar way to how he played it, the possibility of which will weaken your hand somewhat.
I cannot see your call ever being a big +ve EV (expected value) move here, but then again I can't see it ever being a big -ve EV move either.
One additional point about this hand - AKT9 suited to the king is not that much of a hand and certainly not worth a raise. I would limp with this holding preflop - the double-gap means that it doesn't fill as many straights as you might imagine, and you have no pair to hit a big set or nut flush draw feature. The only reason to raise it up here is to steal the big blind, which is understandable (though it's not something I tend to do out of position from the small blind!), but from any other seat on the table you shouldn't really be raising this preflop.
Also, on the turn, you should bet the pot or check. Betting a little over half pot does not charge him to draw, it leaves you less money to bet on the river, and it allows him to make a big re-raise. Betting the full pot will encourage a fold if your opponent has less than a big set or premium draw and this would mathematically be the best result for you here, although checking is perhaps more conservative. In general, you should aim to always bet the pot in PLO except when there's a specific reason for not doing so.
Monk
xxxxx
Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:42 pm
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In a tournament - I think this situation becomes much more muddy...
Statistics: Posted by starstealer — Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:19 pm
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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (7 handed)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($44.30)
Hero ($78)
BB ($40)
UTG ($94.60)
MP1 ($12.15)
MP2 ($94.75)
Preflop: Hero is SB with
![[Kc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kc.gif "The King of Clubs")
, ![[Th]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Th.gif "The Ten of Hearts")
, ![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
, ![[9c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
. 5 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.
Flop: ($6)
![[6h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
, ![[Qc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qc.gif "The Queen of Clubs")
, ![[7c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7c.gif "The Seven of Clubs")
(2 players)Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.
Turn: ($14)
![[Kd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kd.gif "The King of Diamonds")
(2 players)Hero bets $9, BB raises to $33, Hero calls $24.
River: ($80)
![[8h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8h.gif "The Eight of Hearts")
(2 players)Final Pot: $80
Results in white below:
BB has Qs 3s Ks As (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $80.
Statistics: Posted by euri10 — Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:37 pm
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Likely cards that will win for you:
a) any club except the 6c (pairs the board) - 8 outs (2nd nut flush)
b) any non-club jack - 3 outs (nut straight)
c) any non-club eight - 3 outs (nut straight)
So I estimate you've got 14 outs to win with one card to come. 44 cards that are unknown - so you're probably looking at approximately 2.1:1 against for odds.
In terms of the pot, it is $24 more to you to call into a $56 pot. This is slightly better than 2.3:1 - so it seems you are getting your odds.
Note however, that IF your 2nd nut flush is not likely good - you have to fold here. Regardless, it is a small edge - so on this particular hand, you aren't going to be making much from it over the long term (assuming you could find this situation again and again...)
/d
Statistics: Posted by starstealer — Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:54 am
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i'll post the end after...
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (7 handed)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($44.30)
Hero ($78)
BB ($40)
UTG ($94.60)
MP1 ($12.15)
MP2 ($94.75)
Preflop: Hero is SB with
, , , . 5 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.
Flop: ($6)
, , (2 players)Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.
Turn: ($14)
(2 players)Hero bets $9, BB raises to $33, Hero ????
Statistics: Posted by euri10 — Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:13 am
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