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Hand 2. Same problem really. You're not sure what your opponent has here (his call could very well mean a draw that dominates you). Turn is great help, but what are you going to do on a brick? This opponent seems to be of the sponge type, and you don't have a lot of folding equity. Even though you are ahead mathematically, I think I prefer a check, to keep more options open.
One possible reason for your plays could be that you think you don't get enough action on made hands, in which case I see this as good advertising. But in isolation I prefer a more conservative line in both hands.
Statistics: Posted by Ojingo — Wed May 24, 2006 11:41 am
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Despite the 2 spades I'm actually favorite on the turn, believe it or not: 52.5% for me, and 47.5% for villain.
Let's see... I have any A as outs (2), 7 spades, 8 diamonds, plus 4 additional straight outs for a total of 21. And I guess there are only 40 cards left in the deck, so that seems about right.
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Wed May 24, 2006 3:00 am
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Here I've only been playing at the table for about an orbit, so my reads aren't terribly solid. Villain seems fairly decent, though. Hasn't done anything stupid anyway.
My play on this one I view as much more controversial. I raise the flop to rep AA, which I don't think villain has in light of my own hand. What I do have is TP with open-ended straight draw as well as flush. I think I have some fold equity here. When I get a call, I'm almost certainly my opponent has 99, possibly A9. I think he'd clearly push AA.
On the turn, I don't think I have much fold equity, but now I have 2 pair, which I don't think are good but which should give me a couple of extra outs (a 2 if he has A9, and an A if he has 99). I still have my open-ender, but now I also have both flush draws. This should be approaching 20 outs. The reason I bet here, though, is that I'm pretty sure he'll push to a check anyway, and I'm definitely calling. So, I figure that if I have any fold equity at all, it's better for me to bet. I suppose, really, that the validity of this play depends on whether or not he's actually going to push. It seems to me rather bizarre, in any case, to check that turn with AA, so I just can't imagine his not assuming he's ahead and betting.
Here's the hand:
Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.65
UTG+1: $83.25
CO: $190.80
Button: $93.25
SB: $60.55
Hero: $115.30
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with
![[2d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2d.gif "The Two of Diamonds")
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[Td]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Td.gif "The Ten of Diamonds")
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.
Flop:
![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
![[7s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7s.gif "The Seven of Spades")
($8, 4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $7.6, SB folds, Hero raises to $30.4, UTG folds, Button calls.
Turn:
![[2s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2s.gif "The Two of Spades")
($68.8, 2 players)Hero bets $65.8, Button calls all-in $60.85.
Uncalled bets: $4.95 returned to Hero.
River:
![[Kc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kc.gif "The King of Clubs")
($190.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $190.5)Results:
Final pot: $190.5
Villain has 9h9s3s4h
I'll have to look up the odds on the turn as point of interest. Would just like to know how far behind I really was here (his 2 spades certainly don't help).
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Wed May 24, 2006 2:52 am
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Hand 1 I like my play with set and flush draw. My opponent here is fairly nut-peddly, but it seems to be a common mistake at the $100 tables to raise nut straights with no redraws (at least this seemed to be the trend tonight--I saw it VERY frequently).
Villain was whining after the hand and said I should've just called. I definitely disagree. Looking this up on the odds calculator, I'm a 2:1 favorite (with 7% or so splits in case we both end up with the nut straight) despite the fact that he has one of my spades. What is true is that neither of my draws are to the nuts (except quads), but I put him squarely on the nut straight and figure most of the time that my draws are going to be good. I think the advantage to pushing this draw is that (if I'm ahead, which I'm not if he has nut spades or straight with set, but I don't think I'm in really HORRIBLE shape in either case. What he can't have is nut straight with set AND flush redraw) he lays down whenever I hit if I flat call. I think 2:1 favorite is plenty for a push and in fact a pretty huge edge in PLO.
Anyhow, here's the hand:
Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
7 players
<a href="http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter">Converter</a>
<br><strong>Stack sizes:</strong>
Aisthesis: $172.65
UTG+1: $66.75
MP1: $79.70
CO: $126.25
Button: $98
SB: $99
BB: $210.10
<br><strong>Pre-flop:</strong> (<em>7 players</em>) Aisthesis is UTG with :ts :jd :js :4c
Aisthesis calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.
<br><strong>Flop:</strong> :qs :ks :jc (<em>$5, 5 players</em>)
SB, folds, BB checks, <span style="color: raisecolour">Aisthesis bets $4.75</span>, <span style="color: raisecolour">MP1 raises to $17</span>, <em>2 folds</em>, <span style="color: raisecolour">Aisthesis raises to $55.75</span>, <span style="color: raisecolour">MP1 raises all-in $78.7</span>, Aisthesis calls.
<br><strong>Turn:</strong> :3s (<em>$162.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $162.4</em>)
<br><strong>River:</strong> :8s (<em>$162.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $162.4</em>)
<br><strong>Results:</strong>
Final pot: $162.4
MP1 has ThTcAs2c
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Wed May 24, 2006 2:34 am
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