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Actually, I think this bring up a rather interesting (to me) idea of a more general sort: What do you think in general, where there are various straights possible (for 3 possible straights you have to have 3 connecting cards) and a good deal of stack depth of mini-raising on the stronger of the straights? For example, if there are 3 possible made straights, just folding bottom straight to a bet, but mini-raising top or middle straight (at least against reasonably aggro opponents).
That seems to me to allow you to define your hand a lot better. Also, if there are players left to act, you should pretty much drive them off of more dubious draws (most of the time--and I'm talking here mainly about flush draw with nothing) due to the uncertainty as to how the initial bettor will act.
Also, if they hammer it, you can flat call with the nut straight only (assuming there's stack-depth left) and push with nut straight and redraw.
This move at least seems to me to give some "feeling out" room in such situations without getting in excessively deep on losers.
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:00 am
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Having TT in your hand gives a slight "Blocking" element to your holding that makes TJ slightly less likely, though I wouldn't read much into that.
Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:30 pm
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Villain here is extremely aggro but will have some kind of a hand. I guess I feel like I should have called the river or else folded the turn. I honestly think my hand wins about as often as it loses against this particular player, and I can't really call the turn merely hoping to hit a flush. It felt to my like villain was more angry that the raiser hadn't given him the opportunity to c-r. I do think he had some straight but am not at all sure which.
So, how do you play the turn and river here? Fold the turn? Raise maybe? Or call both? I'm not particulary happy with the line of calling the turn and folding the river, which is the line I took.
I actually find raising the turn rather interesting, albeit AWFULLY aggressive. I find out definitively whether or not he has the nut straight, have fold equity against a split straight and do have flush outs even if he does have the nut straight, which, objectively anyway, should call rather than push without a redraw... (?).
Is a turn mini-raise also worth considering on a board with several straights possible?
Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
8 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $91.50
UTG+1: $104.70
MP1: $100
Hero: $160.85
CO: $94.95
Button: $56.25
SB: $105.20
BB: $125.60
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with
![[Td]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Td.gif "The Ten of Diamonds")
![[Tc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Tc.gif "The Ten of Clubs")
![[7d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7d.gif "The Seven of Diamonds")
![[6c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6c.gif "The Six of Clubs")
2 folds, MP1 calls $1 (pot was $1.5), Hero calls $1 (pot was $2.5), CO folds, Button raises to $5, 2 folds, MP1 calls $4 (pot was $8.5), Hero calls $4 (pot was $12.5).
Flop:
![[4h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4h.gif "The Four of Hearts")
![[7h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7h.gif "The Seven of Hearts")
![[8d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8d.gif "The Eight of Diamonds")
($16.5, 3 players)MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
Turn:
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
($16.5, 3 players)MP1 bets $15.7, Hero calls $15.7 (pot was $32.2), Button folds.
River:
![[5c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5c.gif "The Five of Clubs")
($47.9, 2 players)MP1 bets $45.55, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $45.55 returned to MP1.
Results:
Final pot: $47.9
Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:49 pm
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