An alternative play I have just thought of is that you call the turn and bet any river. If the board pairs or a flush comes and he has the same straight with no redraw, he may fold and give you the pot. If he had the boat/flush draw you don't lose any more money by betting your dead hand on the river than you would've by moving all in on the turn; perhaps this is the better play against a very solid player, but here I think there is still a slim chance he has a worse hand than you on the turn so getting all in is marginally better. Doesn't hurt to consider other options though!
Don't lose any sleep over this hand. You played it fine.
Monk
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Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:46 am
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2dimes on this hand on the flop gives a small %tage favorite for my hand (I'd thought it would have been more) :
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=804737
pokenum -o 9h th 8c 9c - jc jh as ks -- 8s 4c 7h
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 8s 4c 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 8c Th 9h 426 51.95 394 48.05 0 0.00 0.520
As Ks Jc Jh 394 48.05 426 51.95 0 0.00 0.480
and on the turn :
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=804738
pokenum -o 9h th 8c 9c - jc jh as ks -- 8s 4c 7h js
Omaha Hi: 40 enumerated boards containing Js 8s 4c 7h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 8c Th 9h 24 60.00 16 40.00 0 0.00 0.600
As Ks Jc Jh 16 40.00 24 60.00 0 0.00 0.400
Statistics: Posted by euri10 — Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:21 am
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I would perhaps bet that flop but only if I think the opposing players may lay both their hands down. If no-one will fold there isn't much reason to bet it. Your pair gives you a bit more strength if someone decides to call on a draw, which makes betting slightly more palatable (i.e. if you bet, get one caller and it's checked down you might still win it with 99, unlikely but it does happen). But the only reason to bet here is if your opponents are reasonably tight and will pass hands like AA and KK.
Monk
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Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:05 am
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I'm in MP with
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
![[Th]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Th.gif "The Ten of Hearts")
![[8c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
![[9c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
, I limp and the button (65$) raises pot, 1 EP caller (45$), I call (55$), we are 3 in the pot (about 11$)Flop is
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[4c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4c.gif "The Four of Clubs")
![[7h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7h.gif "The Seven of Hearts")
and it is checked to me, I check and Button raiser checks. Is this check here questionnable ?Turn is a
![[Js]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Js.gif "The Jack of Spades")
giving me the nut str8, EP checks I bet pot (11$), button raises me pot (33$),EP folds and I reraise all-in. Too agressive, do I need to give him a cheap river ?River is an 8, I lost this pot facing
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
![[Jh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
![[Ks]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ks.gif "The King of Spades")
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
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Statistics: Posted by euri10 — Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:19 am
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