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Hand 2: In my opinion you have put yourself in a tough spot by reraising preflop and betting only 2/3 of the pot on the flop. This is a nice flop for your hand despite the 2[d] . You should bet the pot on the flop. Then you are virtually pot committed and can easily go all-in if villain check raises.
Hand 3: I agree with Monk's advice.
Statistics: Posted by MattSk — Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:37 pm
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Hand 3 I think you definitely need to raise that flop. I think I'd be tempted to raise the turn. By the river I can't see why you'd want to do anything other than call unless the guy is very loose indeed.
Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:38 pm
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Hand 2: This is such a typical situation in PLO8 higher limits when you start to encounter really tough players. You know he has put you on a hand, and he also knows that you know this, so what does his bet mean? There were players on the $1k/$2k level at Party who were capable of making this move with almost anything because they knew they were putting you in a tough spot. I don't think the decision here is nearly as important as noting who this player is, and watching him very closely in the future. Given the equities, Goops analysis is probably correct. Aren't you glad you didn't have a big stack and this wasn't like a $2k table. There were times at night when you'd have 4-5 guys at the table who could literally have anything making this move at the $1k $2k levels. Scary players. Granted this was not all the time, but it does concern me about the prospects for table selection at this level in the near future. You really need a fish or two to be siting at the higher levels, or stuff like this makes the game VERY tough for guys like me (and you Dave) who are lower variance players moving up.
Hand 3: I call.
Statistics: Posted by Mendacious — Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:05 pm
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Bets pot and reevaluates on the river.
Hand 2
Since opponent is tricky and capable of putting a move on you I am felting.
Hand 3
On the river I raise I but I think it is slightly -EV to do so. I would do it for meta game.
Edit: Mis-read hand 2 (didn't realize you had the 4)
Edit: Mis-read hand 3 as well (need to stop posting @ 8:00 in the morning)
Statistics: Posted by GooperMC — Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:38 am
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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $2 BB (9 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)
saw flop|saw showdown
CO ($170)
Button ($217.25)
SB ($221.50)
davebreal ($237)
UTG ($180.40)
UTG+1 ($180.05)
MP1 ($112.70)
MP2 ($282.85)
MP3 ($424.65)
Preflop: davebreal is BB with
![[2d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2d.gif "The Two of Diamonds")
, ![[Js]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Js.gif "The Jack of Spades")
, ![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
, ![[Ah]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ah.gif "The Ace of Hearts")
. CO posts a blind of $3. 5 folds, CO (poster) raises to $8, 2 folds, davebreal calls $6.
Flop: ($18)
![[6h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6h.gif "The Six of Hearts")
, ![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
, ![[7h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7h.gif "The Seven of Hearts")
(2 players)davebreal bets $17.1, CO calls $17.10.
Turn: ($52.20)
![[4c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4c.gif "The Four of Clubs")
(2 players)davebreal ????
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (9 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG+1 ($693.25)
MP1 ($1788.20)
MP2 ($273.35)
davebreal ($574.50)
CO ($521.90)
Button ($448.50)
SB ($497.90)
BB ($289.35)
UTG ($686.45)
Preflop: davebreal is MP3 with
![[4h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/4h.gif "The Four of Hearts")
, ![[Ac]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
, , ![[2s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2s.gif "The Two of Spades")
. UTG calls $6, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $18, 1 fold, davebreal raises to $69, 4 folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $51.
Flop: ($153)
![[Ks]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ks.gif "The King of Spades")
, ![[6s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6s.gif "The Six of Spades")
, (2 players)MP1 checks, davebreal bets $100, MP1 raises to $450, davebreal ????
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (8 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)
saw flop|[color=#C00000]saw showdown
UTG+1 ($546.25)
MP1 ($2347.70)
MP2 ($264.35)
davebreal ($1221.65)
Button ($191)
SB ($526.75)
BB ($418.35)
UTG ($581.45)
Preflop: davebreal is CO with
![[3d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3d.gif "The Three of Diamonds")
, ![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
, ![[5c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5c.gif "The Five of Clubs")
, . UTG calls $6, 1 fold, MP1 calls $6, MP2 calls $6, davebreal calls $6, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($36)
![[Jh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
, , ![[5s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5s.gif "The Five of Spades")
(6 players)SB bets $12, BB folds, UTG calls $12, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, davebreal calls $12.
Turn: ($72)
![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
(3 players)SB bets $69, UTG folds, davebreal calls $69.
River: ($210)
(2 players)SB bets $207, [color=#CC3333]davebreal ????
Statistics: Posted by davebreal — Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:08 am
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