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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-11-06T10:35:40-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=24&t=19589&mode 2006-11-06T10:35:40-06:00 2006-11-06T10:35:40-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176593#p176593 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by GooperMC — Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:35 am


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2006-11-04T23:54:25-06:00 2006-11-04T23:54:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176198#p176198 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]>
Here's a very similar hand that happened today. Button is a hyper aggressive, positional player. UTG is fish/gambler.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
4 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $354.34
Button: $549.45
Hero: $703.10
BB: $816.97

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with [Ts] [Ah] [4d] [7h]
UTG calls, Button raises to $27, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: [4c] [Tc] [9s] ($87, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets $85, Hero raises to $340, UTG calls all-in $327.34, Button calls.

Turn: [Js] ($1094.34, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1069.02, Sidepot 1: $25.32)
Hero raises all-in $336.1, Button calls all-in $182.45.
Uncalled bets: $153.65 returned to Hero.

River: [Qd] ($1459.24, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $1069.02, Sidepot 1: $390.22)

Results:
Final pot: $1459.24
Hero shows Ts Ah 4d 7h
UTG shows Td 2c Kc 3s
Button doesn't show 7s Ac 3c 2h

I was 46% in the main three way pot and 57% in the side pot. I also picked up another $100 in net equity on the turn when he called the rest.

Would anyone who advocates folding the other hand do the same with this hand? Or is this still a bad spot over the long run?

Statistics: Posted by Phil153 — Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:54 pm


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2006-11-04T21:00:39-06:00 2006-11-04T21:00:39-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176158#p176158 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:00 pm


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2006-11-04T20:58:32-06:00 2006-11-04T20:58:32-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176157#p176157 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by GooperMC — Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:58 pm


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2006-11-04T18:03:02-06:00 2006-11-04T18:03:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176110#p176110 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:03 pm


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2006-11-04T15:52:26-06:00 2006-11-04T15:52:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176082#p176082 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by GooperMC — Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:52 pm


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2006-11-04T13:48:24-06:00 2006-11-04T13:48:24-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176050#p176050 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Phil153 — Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:48 pm


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2006-11-04T13:32:40-06:00 2006-11-04T13:32:40-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=176046#p176046 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]>
In general I don’t want to put too much money in with you hand. My reasons are

1) He is steaming so you don’t have much fold equity, you will only get worse hands to fold (I don’t think he folds top and bottom here).

2) He is steaming so you don’t want to let him off the hook by letting him win a big hand. In my experience someone who is steaming cools off after winning a big hand. Until then, they are willing to put they stack in with some pretty bad hands, but after that they will start playing reasonable again. Because of this I want to wait until I have a better hand then you currenly have to get all in.

3) If you are ahead you are barely ahead, but if you are behind you are way behind

4) The obvious OOP reasons (if he calls the flop you are going to face either a turn or river bet)

If he hasn’t been floating you I would have just lead into him on the flop. If he has been floating you I would either
- Check call the flop and CR or CF the turn
- Check fold the flop and wait for a better hand to stack this guy with.

I am leaning towards leading into him or check folding. Overall I would try and find a better place to finish him off.

Some equity numbers:
Against [As] [Ac] XX: 55% equity
Against [Ac] [Ah] XX: 60% equity
Against [Jc] [9d] XX: 25% equity
Against [Jd] [Jc] XX: 17% equity
Against [As] [2s] XX: 52% equity

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Statistics: Posted by GooperMC — Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:32 pm


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2006-11-03T22:33:51-06:00 2006-11-03T22:33:51-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175915#p175915 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Phil153 — Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:33 pm


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2006-11-03T22:12:47-06:00 2006-11-03T22:12:47-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175911#p175911 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:12 pm


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2006-11-03T21:52:19-06:00 2006-11-03T21:52:19-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175908#p175908 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Phil153 — Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:52 pm


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2006-11-03T21:24:39-06:00 2006-11-03T21:24:39-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175901#p175901 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:24 pm


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2006-11-03T21:39:59-06:00 2006-11-03T20:55:57-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175892#p175892 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Phil153 — Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:55 pm


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2006-11-03T20:34:05-06:00 2006-11-03T20:34:05-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175885#p175885 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:34 pm


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2006-11-03T16:14:59-06:00 2006-11-03T16:14:59-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19589&p=175783#p175783 <![CDATA[$2/4 PLO8 - Bottom Two Pair Heads Up]]> Statistics: Posted by Mendacious — Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:14 pm


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