I should also try and characterise the sort of game I am playing at. It sounds a lot like the games you would nutpeddle. People are obscenely loose. Average flop is seen by 5-7 players, sometimes more, and they do not like to let go of hands. They will but in their whole stack to defend their ante.
One player check/called me on the flop, turn and river all-in with a 9-high flush he flopped, on a paired board, with absolutely no low, in an unraised pot. Basically the best he could hope for is to get his money back minus rake, ie: best case he loses slightly less than if he would just fold.
That's an extreme example but a lot of people will chase non-nut lows, bare lows or highs without lows when a low is already out. Basically, they will make all the mistakes. Only a few of them are very aggressive though, most fall into the loose/passive category.
This is why I see limited value in playing certain hands, that need "bluff value" to be profitable. I basically find that nutpeddling is a must most of the time and to get into a pot with a hand that is likely to flop a "decent" two-way hand instead of a nut one-way hand is trouble. Of course, one-way hands aren't very profitable either most of the time since I will always be up against someone with a janky two-way hand (like 3:d nut low and top+bottom pair) who will take half of it.
The post flop strategy seems to depend on either getting nut/nut, which doesn't happen that often obviously, or tailoring the bets to suck in multiple players so you don't win half of a heads-up pot.Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:14 pm
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