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So I'm either hoping to continue the hand 3-handed (in which case I'm not too concerned whether it's called round or raised) or put pressure on the $0.20 betting guy (who I don't think bets on the flop, calls a raise, and then puts out a puny mini-bet on the turn with a straight). But basically I think (given the betting) you'll still be ahead here often enough to make raising a good play, with the huge draw you have as backup. Without the straight draw, I'd be more concerned about getting raised but I still think on balance I'd probably risk it at this level.
If I had to put them on a hand (assuming they're not too bad) I guess I'd maybe say the 20c betting guy has a nut flush draw plus maybe some other crap, and the other fella has a set/two-pair, something like that. Of course there could be a 9J or something floating around but them's the breaks if so.
Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:18 pm
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Do you believe then that it would have been correct for me to pooosh on the flop? Now I'm thinking maybe. Stacks weren't very deep ... maybe just over 1 buyin each.
Also, yes in hindsight I could have gotten a bit more value on the river.
Statistics: Posted by pokerzen — Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:24 pm
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This is basically for anyone learning PLO.
> Dealing Hole Cards
![[Jh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jh.gif "The Jack of Hearts")
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
![[Qc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qc.gif "The Queen of Clubs")
![[Ac]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
> hampi33 folded
> pokerzen raised for $0.70
> Chiefmann folded
> Ringmuskeln folded
> DBERN called for $0.60
> ManneE called for $0.50
> Dealing the Flop
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[Ts]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ts.gif "The Ten of Spades")
![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
> DBERN bet for $0.52
> ManneE raised for $3.66
> pokerzen called for $3.66 --> I'm not about to push my stack here when there's a straight/flush draw on the board ... if the turn was harmless I'd push.
DBERN called for $3.14
> Dealing the turn
![[7d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7d.gif "The Seven of Diamonds")
--> I believe at this point that I am defeated, and will fold to any good-sized bet.> DBERN bet for $0.20 --> This is NOT a good-sized bet. This is in fact the most retarded play possible. Here you pot it, or check-raise if you think oppo will bet.
> ManneE called for $0.20
> pokerzen called for $0.20 --> I have 9 outs to a nut full house, and 1 out for quads ... I didn't even consider that I could pull a straight out of this too ... but I had an additional 3 outs there. Edit: looking it over again ... I had another 3 on the K as well. Total = 15 outs to the nuts or near-nuts. (board pair could possibly give someone quads. Which happens. To me. All the time. I log it in my journal now. Anyway, obviously call.
> Dealing the river
![[9c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9c.gif "The Nine of Clubs")
--> Yay, nut straight!> DBERN, you have 10 seconds to respond
> DBERN bet for $3.42 --> Yay, an idiot! (Wrong time to make the big bet buddy)
> ManneE folded
> pokerzen raised for $6.84 --> Value bet, because I didn't believe he'd go for a repot
> DBERN called for $3.42
> pokerzen shows a Straight, Queen high
DBERN mucked
> pokerzen wins $27.06 with a Straight, Queen high
So yah, the point here basically is that I would have folded my hand to a pot bet on the turn. He obviously had a lower straight, and that would have been the correct play. Since he played incorrectly, he lost over 1/2 buyin on a hand he could have taken down.
Statistics: Posted by pokerzen — Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:20 am
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