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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2007-03-05T14:52:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=24&t=23302&mode 2007-03-05T14:52:17-06:00 2007-03-05T14:52:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23302&p=218033#p218033 <![CDATA[More odds]]> Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:52 pm


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2007-03-05T00:44:38-06:00 2007-03-05T00:44:38-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23302&p=217877#p217877 <![CDATA[More odds]]> Statistics: Posted by emmasdad — Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:44 am


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2007-03-03T22:20:48-06:00 2007-03-03T22:20:48-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23302&p=217558#p217558 <![CDATA[More odds]]>
Here's what I came up with:

First, if both the board and the draws are rainbow, then KQJ9 is a big favorite at 1.9:1.

The odds against AKJ9 are also exactly the same if we change KQJ9 to KJT9, pairing the T rather than the Q. However, with regard to the original question I was talking about, I think it's much better to have the Q pair than the T pair because it makes top set less likely, and top set also has to call (and is favorite). If they don't have top set, then you're against putting a lot of pressure on middle set and 2 pair. The latter really has to fold imo, and probably against the range I'm trying to work out for raises, folding middle set is a pretty good idea as well.

But things change significantly on twotone boards. There, if AKJ9 has the nut flush draw, too, there's no way I can find for KQJ9 not to be underdog--although not really dominated underdog, I'd say. Anyhow, if AKJ9 has nut flush draw and KQJ9 is rainbow, we're looking here at 1.4:1 for AKJ9.

If KQJ9 has K-high flush draw but AKJ9 still has nut flush draw, then it goes down to 1.3:1, but AKJ9 is still favorite.

My conclusion: On rainbow boards KQJ9 is a clear push hand on that board.

But I think on twotone boards, you need not only TP but also a big flush draw to push. If, for example, you have the K-high flush draw, you're in better shape vs. AKJ9 AND you have a lot more draws in there that your hand dominates. With no flush draw at all, I think KQJ9 unfortunately becomes a fold (?) on that board--at least to a pot-sized bet.

Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:20 pm


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