Anyway, even if MP would come over the top it could easily mean he has top two, bottom set or some decent draw which he prefers to play HU against the BB. It's also very possible that they have a lot of eachothers outs, improving your odds.
In short, even if you would make a mistake because it happens to be a worst-case scenario, it's not a big mistake. Overall you figure to be in decent to good shape here both HU and 3-way.
Statistics: Posted by Ojingo — Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:34 am
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Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Ts 9s 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Js Ac 7h 204 30.63 462 69.37 0 0.00 0.306
2c Td Kh Th 296 44.44 364 54.65 6 0.90 0.449
Qs Jc 8c Kd 160 24.02 500 75.08 6 0.90 0.245
Maybe it was something like this I entered last night varying the wrap a bit and putting that K back in the deck we get this:
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Ts 9s 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Js Ac 7h 182 27.33 478 71.77 6 0.90 0.278
2c Td Kh Th 310 46.55 356 53.45 0 0.00 0.465
Qs Jc 8c Ah 168 25.23 492 73.87 6 0.90 0.257
Interesting... not a major difference but If I give the set 2 janky sidecards it switches to this:
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing Ts 9s 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Js Ac 7h 187 28.08 470 70.57 9 1.35 0.288
2c Td Th 5h 278 41.74 388 58.26 0 0.00 0.417
Qs Jc 8c Ah 192 28.83 465 69.82 9 1.35 0.295
Statistics: Posted by Pok 7's — Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:37 pm
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I ran some scenarios and I'll put them below:
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)
MP ($42.15)
CO ($11.65)
Hero ($45.80)
SB ($21.20)
BB ($14.45)
UTG ($15.85)
Preflop: Hero is Button with
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
, ![[Js]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Js.gif "The Jack of Spades")
, ![[Ac]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
, ![[7h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7h.gif "The Seven of Hearts")
. UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50.
Flop: ($3.85)
![[Ts]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ts.gif "The Ten of Spades")
, ![[5s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/5s.gif "The Five of Spades")
, ![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
(5 players)BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $3.7, BB raises to $13.7, UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Hero calls $10.
Turn: ($31.25)
![[8h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8h.gif "The Eight of Hearts")
(2 players)River: ($31.25)
![[3s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3s.gif "The Three of Spades")
(2 players)Final Pot: $31.25
Results in white below:
BB has Ks Tc 4s 5h (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $31.25.
1. I gave villian a set of 2 red tens with a suited king, and a dangler...(I gave him a 2s)
I'm a 40% dog
2. I gave him a wrap
![[Th]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Th.gif "The Ten of Hearts")
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
![[8c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8c.gif "The Eight of Clubs")
and I'm a 60% favorite3. If I give him the same wrap but take away a few of my outs...
![[Jd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jd.gif "The Jack of Diamonds")
![[Qs]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
I'm slightly better than a coin toss.4. Same applies to his actual holding, I'm a bit better than a coin toss here
So in a shorthanded game I'm assuming this situation isn't the worst position to be in HU if someone decides to shove. However let's say 3 way... I'm gathering the set is about 50% for the most part correct? If my hand remains the same and player 3 has some type of straight draw as well. So this is pretty much a clear fold 3 handed.
So overall I'm assuming here (and I'm counting on you guys to critique my analysis) that this is for the most part not a horrible situation to be involed in HU and getting in with this kind of scenario isn't really a huge mistake but well probably add some variance to your game.
This post is kind of taking a slightly different direction somehow, because I seem to be answering my own questions....But anyway I've spent this much time on it so, is there anything else I shold factor in here? Stack sizes, position, etc.?
Statistics: Posted by Pok 7's — Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:09 pm
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