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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2008-01-30T12:38:16-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=24&t=29369&mode 2008-01-30T12:38:16-06:00 2008-01-30T12:38:16-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29369&p=295271#p295271 <![CDATA[Calling instead of raising?]]> Statistics: Posted by Chips->Middle — Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:38 pm


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2008-01-28T23:14:58-06:00 2008-01-28T23:14:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29369&p=294845#p294845 <![CDATA[Calling instead of raising?]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:14 pm


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2008-01-28T15:55:28-06:00 2008-01-28T15:55:28-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29369&p=294753#p294753 <![CDATA[Calling instead of raising?]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:55 pm


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2008-01-28T12:32:01-06:00 2008-01-28T12:32:01-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29369&p=294720#p294720 <![CDATA[Calling instead of raising?]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:32 pm


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2008-01-28T07:02:54-06:00 2008-01-28T07:02:54-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=29369&p=294689#p294689 <![CDATA[Calling instead of raising?]]> Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 5

Stack Sizes
Seat 1: Seat: 1 ($25.96)
Seat 3: Chips->Middle ($33.57)
Seat 4: Seat: 4 ($28.85)
Seat 5: Seat: 5 ($68.37)
Seat 6: Seat: 6 ($9.16)

Seat: 4 posts small blind [$0.10] , Seat: 5 posts big blind [$0.20]

Dealing down cards
Chips->Middle has been dealt [9s] [Ts] [7d] [Qh]
Seat: 6 calls [$0.20] , Seat: 1 calls [$0.20] , Chips->Middle raises to [$1.10] , Seat: 4 calls [$1] , Seat: 5 calls [$0.90] , Seat: 6 calls [$0.90] , Seat: 1 calls [$0.90]

Dealing Flop: [8c] [Jd] [Kh] : : Pot: 5.50
Seat: 4 checks , Seat: 5 checks , Seat: 6 checks , Seat: 1 bets [$5.50] , Chips->Middle raises to [$22] , Seat: 4 folds , Seat: 5 folds , Seat: 6 folds , Seat: 1 calls [$16.50]

The guy in Seat 5 with the big stack has a VP$IP and a PFR% both over 90% and has been battering the table. On the flop and beyond he is betting big and betting often and is potting it to any sign of weakness. Frequently calling the flop and then waiting for a sign of weakness and a chance to pot it.

The guy in Seat 5 has everybody at the table out of sorts. They are getting aggro with weaker holdings, calling with weaker holdings and generally getting into spots that they aren't comfortable in.

Anyway. My question is: Is this one of those spots where I should consider the call instead of the raise?

I've ended up with a buyin and a half in the middle on what is most likely a coinflip. I can't see myself ever being in particularly bad shape here but is calling the better way to play it?

Raising gives me some fold equity, gives me 2 ways to win the pot. It also gets the players behind me out which could be important since 6 of my straight outs are non nut ones.

With bucket loads of outs here and no hand yet would anyone call and wait to hit a hand?

The advantages I suppose would be:

Controlling the risk by not escallating things early.
Might get at least one call behind me giving nice pot odds (particularly from the table maniac).

If anyone would play it by calling, can I ask what your reaction to a T or Q on the turn would be?

Statistics: Posted by Chips->Middle — Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:02 am


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