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I have less of a read on BTN's hand because I think he might be more likley to be playing 2 pair or bottom set more weakly, possibly fearing a bigger set - I did raise preflop and bet this flop after after all - or wanting to see a safe card on the turn before committing to a big pot.
I didn't want to make it that easy on him and I thought that it was also possible that I could push him off a made 2 pair or even bottom set. I also didn't want to share the pot with him..maybe I already said that, been a couple of days.
Anyway, I did end up shoving. BTN took a couple of seconds, but not all that long before folding. I was a dog, little less than 2 to 1, but was getting the right price with the BTN gone. Maybe the other reason I shoved was because the math got too difficult with the sidepot and I didn't want to be bothered with it.
$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at
Stacks:
UTG ($45.45)
UTG+1 ($27.90)
Hero ($209.85)
BTN ($102.65)
SB ($49.55)
BB ($75.65)
Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO
![[Kd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kd.gif "The King of Diamonds")
![[Qs]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
![[Ks]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ks.gif "The King of Spades")
![[Tc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Tc.gif "The Ten of Clubs")
UTG calls $0.50 ($44.95), UTG+1 calls $0.50 ($27.40), Hero raises to $2.75 ($207.10), BTN calls $2.75 ($99.90), 1 fold, BB says "o sht" ($75.15), 1 fold, UTG calls $2.25 ($42.70), UTG+1 calls $2.25 ($25.15)
63.90% (EV = $4.76)
36.10% (EV = $1.49)Flop:
![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
($11.75, 4 players)UTG checks ($42.70), UTG+1 checks ($25.15), Hero bets $10 ($197.10), BTN calls $10 ($89.90), UTG goes all-in $42.70 ($0.00), UTG+1 folds ($25.15), Hero raises to $149.30 ($47.80), BTN folds ($89.90)
36.50% (EV = -$110.19) 63.50% (EV = $18.99)Turn:
![[Kc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kc.gif "The King of Clubs")
($107.15, 2 players) 97.50% (EV = $104.47) 2.50% (EV = $2.43)River:
![[3s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3s.gif "The Three of Spades")
($107.15, 2 players) 100.00% (EV = $107.15) 0.00% (EV = $0.00)Final Pot: $107.15
Hero shows:
UTG shows:
![[9d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9d.gif "The Nine of Diamonds")
![[8h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8h.gif "The Eight of Hearts")
![[6d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6d.gif "The Six of Diamonds")
![[9s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9s.gif "The Nine of Spades")
Hero wins $210.75 ( won +$58.70 )
UTG+1 lost -$2.75
BTN lost -$12.75
UTG lost -$45.45
Statistics: Posted by MTPaid — Sat May 31, 2008 9:53 pm
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If BTN had a strong made hand, wouldn't he have to have raised my c-bet? UTG could have a set (most likely middle because AA would have re-raised preflop.....most likely). He could have 2 pair or a draw though. I don't know much about him. Don't think he'd been at the table long.
Statistics: Posted by MTPaid — Fri May 30, 2008 6:56 pm
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I think what the UTG has is what decides a raise or call IMO.
Been a while since I have thought about PLO though.
Statistics: Posted by Beavis68 — Fri May 30, 2008 4:14 pm
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To me, it's more about the BTN. He obviously has something here, but not enough to raise me. I think he could have some of my outs. I hope he has 2 pair because that makes me more live against a set. But do I want to call and let him in where I could possibly split with him sometimes if he has some type of gutshot or other straight draw?
Statistics: Posted by MTPaid — Thu May 29, 2008 3:21 pm
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you are holding a lot of your own outs. It would suck if he had some too and the btn had a two AJxx or a set.
Statistics: Posted by Beavis68 — Thu May 29, 2008 3:01 pm
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I think the table reads me as pretty loose and ready to gamble with draws (although not without pretty good equity most times), but who knows if they are even paying attention.
The big stack behind me has been playing me cautiously so far. What do I want to do on this turn? Call or shove over to try and isolate which would risk about 200BB total if the BTN calls.
$0.25/$0.5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at
Stacks:
UTG ($45.45)
UTG+1 ($27.90)
Hero ($209.85)
BTN ($102.65)
SB ($49.55)
BB ($75.65)
Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO
UTG calls $0.50 ($44.95), UTG+1 calls $0.50 ($27.40), Hero raises to $2.75 ($207.10), BTN calls $2.75 ($99.90), 1 fold, BB says "o sht" ($75.15), 1 fold, UTG calls $2.25 ($42.70), UTG+1 calls $2.25 ($25.15)
Flop:
($11.75, 4 players)UTG checks ($42.70), UTG+1 checks ($25.15), Hero bets $10 ($197.10), BTN calls $10 ($89.90), UTG goes all-in $42.70 ($0.00), UTG+1 folds ($25.15), Hero ???0
Statistics: Posted by MTPaid — Wed May 28, 2008 10:54 pm
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