![[7c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/7c.gif "The Seven of Clubs")
![[Ts]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ts.gif "The Ten of Spades")
![[Js]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Js.gif "The Jack of Spades")
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
in the SB. UTG raises and MP callsFold. I guess it is a decent "defensive" hand but I wouldn't even play it in an unraised pot on the button so I won't play it out of position against a raise (I really don't bother defending my blinds).
![[Ac]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ac.gif "The Ace of Clubs")
![[2h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2h.gif "The Two of Hearts")
![[Qc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qc.gif "The Queen of Clubs")
![[Qd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qd.gif "The Queen of Diamonds")
on the button. UTG and MP limpI guess I should raise it since it is a really good hand but I practically never raise preflop. I guess I am tight and superpassive preflop. Got a nut low, nut flus and high set potential. I'd play this against a raise too.
![[2c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/2c.gif "The Two of Clubs")
![[As]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/As.gif "The Ace of Spades")
![[Qs]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
![[3d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3d.gif "The Three of Diamonds")
on the cutoff. 2 limpers to me.Obviously excellent low potential and a suited ace means decent high potential as well. I guess I should raise but... I'm passive, remember.
![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
![[6c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6c.gif "The Six of Clubs")
![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
in MP and UTG limpsMjeh. No real low potential. Limp along if I am feeling loose. It has a good high potential and an emergency low so I guess it could be a good hand heads up?
![[Kd]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kd.gif "The King of Diamonds")
![[Ad]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Ad.gif "The Ace of Diamonds")
from UTG+1. UTG limpsI'll limp with this hand. The few times I do raise preflop it is either from late position or a limp/re-raise with a monster like AA23s or AAK2ds
![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
![[3h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3h.gif "The Three of Hearts")
on the button. It is folded to me.Raise to pick up the blinds or fold, if the blinds are loose or good players.
Statistics: Posted by Stoneburg — Tue May 10, 2005 6:08 pm
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1. no ace, with 2 high cards
2. ace of clubs and another high club, the third card should be part of a broadway straight draw.
3. king with at least a backdoor flush draw or straight draw - one low card only - an ace here is acceptable.
4. TJx rainbow or with 2 clubs.
This essentially means I'll be check-folding on the flop 2/3rds of the time - however, right now I'm getting 4.5:1 to hit a reasonable flop. While I don't expect my kings will be good unimproved - there are plenty of good flops. Most of the time, in limit O8, when the flop is high-high-low or high-high-high - the pot very quickly is either dropped entirely by your opponents or becomes heads-up.
If I felt the SB or BB would raise - I think this is a clear fold. I only want to see this flop on the cheap.
Comments? Disagreement?
Statistics: Posted by starstealer — Tue May 10, 2005 12:09 pm
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1) I fold in H/L with no low
2) see 1
3) raise
4) raise
5) probably fold (i'm weak/tight
)6) fold in ep, probably limp in lp
7) raise depending on the blinds, maybe just call but likely raise
Statistics: Posted by briachek — Tue May 10, 2005 11:59 am
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