ACES ARE ONLY A SEGMENT OF A POSSIBLE STARTING HAND. And, this is QUADRUPLY true, when you KNOW that your opponents are going to call.
Against a quality hand, such as 9 10 J 8 double suited, a medocre AA hand, is actually a small underdog. And, against several hands, well your hand is most likely going to be in the SHIFTER(-F)
Now in this spot, it's not such a bad play to move in, because you should be able to get at least one player out. But, if you know that they are going to defend their 20 bucks to the death, it's better to not make this all in move.
The principle power of an AA hand, in omaha high is:
(1) winning the pot without a flop, IF you can make it enough AND your opponents are not stupid enough to call.
(2) Making a set, and be up against a smaller set, or aces up.
(3) Making a flush.
Couple months ago, ATE played his aces just as I recommend, and TWICE in a row, I won between 400 and 500 bucks off the opponent, who flopped aces up.
Omaha high, is a game of MAKING SOMETHING YOu never, ever have anything, before the flop.
If you are up against certain specific hands, you can be a good favorite, but only if heads up
Example: YOu AA K6 once suited
Opponent: K K 2 7 unsuited.
Or, even if the opponent does NOT have a pair that you happen to hold one of his card.
But, here's the thing: ..............................
WHEN YOU ARE UP AGAINST TYPICAL OPPONENTS, and they raise, the vast majority of the time, you will be looking at the other two aces.
I want all of you to read the above line, 48 times, and make it SINK in.
Don't think "what are the odds" ATE is telling you: They are very very good.
I see people make the same dumbass play, alot, continuing to raise with a HOPELESS AA hand, when it's obvious (or should be) that they are up against the other two, and THEY HAVE EXTRA FEATURES, FELLA!
Example, someone raises to say 12 bucks, in the 2-4 game. Let's say that you each have 400 bucks. you make it 36 with AA 6 9 unsuited (shouldn't have done that!)
Now, they come back, and jack you up to 90 (or whatever it is that they can raise)
With the exception of you haveing a good note that they are a crazed action idiot
IF YOU CALL, OR RERAISE YOU ARE NOT READY TO PLAY THE GAME OF POT LIMIT OR NO LIMIT OMAHA HIGH
This is the TEXTBOOK example, of where everyone (except those trained by ATE) goes wrong in omaha high.
Now, in your example, since neither opponent could take more than half your stack or so, it wasn't such a bad play, especially since you did have pretty good extra features, with the 33, and the flush.
BUT, WHEN you and your opponents each have big stacks, you call call call
If you suspect that your opponet has the other two (because they NEVERT raise, without them) and you have a BOGUS AA hand (Ed note: Bogus AA hands, have no suits, and disconnected other cards)
You FOLD FOLD FOLD.
Again, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "ACES"
Remember the famous ATE line
WHADELSEYAGOT WHADELSEYAGOT
Hopefully, this will remind everyone of who the KING of omaha is.
By the way: Hello Monk, hope y'a doin' well
AdamStatistics: Posted by AdamtheExpert — Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:01 am
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