3- WOW. As one of my friends put it, "omaha is like poker was before Monkeymaker. So many idiots." Get the money while it's fresh.
4- After much deliberation and bitching about him getting lucky, I would probably fold this. I just don't like calling with straights when the board is paired, esp pot sized bets on the river after he has been calling you the whole time.
5- I don't know, at first I thought a semi bluff check raise might work but it depends on the player and if he recognizes strength, aka fold equity (I'm learning monk!!!)
6- Hmmm. The only thing I would be worried about is the other guy sandbagging AAxx or KKxx or worse, a bare 3 looking to boat. But the check on the river showed a lot of weakness. I think you can throw out a bet here and stick with your original read and be reasonably sure that you can fold to a reraise.
7- I probably would have called here too with all the outs. Fold to a paired board on the river though.
Statistics: Posted by Stl10202 — Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:43 am
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Hand 2: Yeah, I bet a bit less on the turn. Leave enough to shove about a half pot bet or something on the river, though.
Hand 3: Lol - the guy who won it looks to my untrained eye to be big money favourite, still, gotta be worth some irate trash talk anyway.
Hand 4: I think you set yourself up for a fall with the flop check-raise, though admittedly if the guy folded it'd have been nice. I'd have probably opted for a cheap turn with the knowledge that my fold equity is reduced by the all-in player. Realistically, most turns will be scary for your hand and you're out of position. I prefer to keep things more manageable in those spots. If Foce had a bit less money I'd have liked your play. Your turn bet wasn't too bad, although admittedly he's unlikely to drop either of his likely draws (flush just hit, and you didn't bet enough to shift a set). On the river I don't see what you can really beat. Bad call I think.
Hand 5: You should either bet out on the turn or check-fold. Check-calling achieces the worst of both worlds; you gain no info on your opponents' hands and no fold equity either.
Hand 6: Given your read I suppose it's not the worst bet but at this level I'd imagine your semi-bluff won't work that often; KKxx and AAxx will be very obstinate, and there might be some low-orientated cards lurking round to make trips or straights too. It woulda been a nice steal if they both dropped, though
Hand 7: I would've raised the turn to take control of the hand and because you have so many outs. If you can drop anyone with similar draws it can clean up your hand nicely, you might win without having to hit, and, by taking the momentum in the hand, you can bluff a blank river and get a similar (but winning) hand like a draw with a single pair to fold. That said, once the other guy raises TT looks likely, but your hand is easily good enough to call with all those juicey outs.
Monk
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Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:08 pm
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3) I might come over to party. Well, not really, but it's fascinating, like mental hospitals are.
4) If you think it is more likely that your opponent has a set than a flush you should bet full pot on the turn. Would he bet out with the nut flush draw on the flop?
5) I fold the river. I might raise the turn if my opponent often takes stabs at pots with weak hands.
6) The only story you can try to sell on the turn is that you attempted a checkraise on the flop, missed and now bet out yourself. Against these guys I check fold these type of hands.
7) Good. As an aside, if the flush hits on the river I'd bet out as well. Surprisingly often people fold their hand for the last couple of $ in their stack in those situations.
Pieter
Statistics: Posted by Hofstra — Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:43 pm
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***** Hand History for Game 2559381565 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Fri Aug 19 00:24:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: J_Superfly ( $14.75)
Seat 2: bybop ( $38.75)
Seat 3: sangrefrio ( $30.15)
Seat 4: Vonnegut_00 ( $23.85)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $24.75)
Seat 6: cobia_king ( $25.55)
Seat 7: copperkey ( $17.90)
Seat 8: mucktome ( $19.02)
Seat 9: pokerkung ( $61.04)
Seat 10: Mitrichor ( $28.05)
briachek1 posts small blind (0.10)
cobia_king posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ 8h, Jc, Kh, Tc ]
copperkey folds.
mucktome calls (0.25)
pokerkung calls (0.25)
Mitrichor folds.
J_Superfly folds.
bybop calls (0.25)
sangrefrio folds.
Vonnegut_00 calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.15)
cobia_king checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kc, 6s, 8s ]
briachek1 checks.
cobia_king checks.
mucktome checks.
pokerkung checks.
bybop checks.
Vonnegut_00 bets (1.50)
briachek1 calls (1.50)
cobia_king folds.
mucktome calls (1.50)
pokerkung folds.
bybop folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
briachek1 bets (5.70)
mucktome calls (5.70)
Vonnegut_00 folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ 7d ]
briachek1 bets (6)
mucktome raises (11.57) to 11.57
mucktome is all-In.
briachek1 calls (5.57)
Creating Main Pot with $38.54 with mucktome
** Summary **
Main Pot: $38.54 | | Rake: $2
Board: [ Kc 6s 8s 2h 7d ]
briachek1 balance $5.73, lost $19.02 [ 8h Jc Kh Tc ] [ two pairs, kings and eights -- Kh,Kc,8h,8s,7d ]
mucktome balance $38.54, bet $19.02, collected $38.54, net +$19.52 [ Qh Th 9c 2s ] [ a straight, six to ten -- Th,9c,8s,7d,6s ]
I felt I had the best hand on the flop but too many possibilities out there so I just called to see the turn. That was a great turn card so decided to charge them. Check raise instead? On the river, pot was big and its hard to believe the 7 helped him unless he had a gutshot or wrap the whole way. Well, he had the gutshot.
Hand 2
***** Hand History for Game 2558387639 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:52:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 37092 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jukeNpuke ( $46.11)
Seat 2: bucks_all_in ( $19.95)
Seat 3: thndrshark ( $40.10)
Seat 4: Mapspear ( $57.57)
Seat 5: kapahm ( $25)
Seat 6: kirk1955 ( $25.80)
Seat 7: FrankCisco ( $51.55)
Seat 8: briachek1 ( $24.80)
Seat 9: Westwind287 ( $20)
Seat 10: TexasExAtty ( $46.05)
bucks_all_in posts small blind (0.10)
thndrshark posts big blind (0.25)
Westwind287 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Jc, 5h, As, Jd ]
Mapspear calls (0.25)
kapahm folds.
kirk1955 calls (0.25)
FrankCisco calls (0.25)
briachek1 calls (0.25)
Westwind287 checks.
TexasExAtty folds.
jukeNpuke calls (0.25)
bucks_all_in calls (0.15)
thndrshark checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, 2s, 2h ]
bucks_all_in checks.
thndrshark checks.
Mapspear bets (1.90)
kirk1955 folds.
FrankCisco calls (1.90)
briachek1 calls (1.90)
Westwind287 calls (1.90)
jukeNpuke folds.
bucks_all_in folds.
thndrshark folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
Mapspear checks.
FrankCisco checks.
briachek1 bets (9.15)
Westwind287 calls (9.15)
Mapspear folds.
FrankCisco folds.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qc ]
briachek1 bets (9)
Westwind287 calls (8.70)
Westwind287 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $43.05 with Westwind287
** Summary **
Main Pot: $43.05 | Side Pot 1: $0.30 | Rake: $2.25
Board: [ Jh 2s 2h 9c Qc ]
briachek1 balance $4.80, bet $20.30, collected $0.30, lost -$20 [ Jc 5h As Jd ] [ a full house, Jacks full of twos -- Jc,Jd,Jh,2s,2h ]
Westwind287 balance $43.05, bet $20, collected $43.05, net +$23.05 [ 9h 2d Tc 2c ] [ four of a kind, twos -- Qc,2d,2c,2s,2h ]
This just sucks. I see the flop and look how I can extract value and then there are all these calls. In hindsight, maybe i shouldn't have bet so much on the turn but people love to call with draws and a bare 2 anyway so I bet it hard. When the guy behind cold called me, i suspected quads but I have to pay him off. I've seen worse hands shown down all the time.
Hand 3
***** Hand History for Game 2558348395 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:47:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 37359 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: FireFox_ ( $29.95)
Seat 2: sweetie80 ( $48.95)
Seat 3: rakesux ( $22.35)
Seat 4: IzPIMPIN ( $42)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $30.25)
Seat 6: kapahm ( $52.40)
Seat 7: mistergrinch ( $20.50)
Seat 10: IPredictPain ( $30.75)
rakesux posts small blind (0.10)
IzPIMPIN posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Td, 4d, 8h, 6h ]
briachek1 folds.
kapahm folds.
mistergrinch calls (0.25)
IPredictPain calls (0.25)
FireFox_ folds.
sweetie80 calls (0.25)
rakesux raises (1.40) to 1.50
IzPIMPIN calls (1.25)
mistergrinch folds.
IPredictPain calls (1.25)
sweetie80 calls (1.25)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, Ks, 2s ]
rakesux bets (4)
IzPIMPIN calls (4)
IPredictPain calls (4)
sweetie80 raises (25.95) to 25.95
rakesux folds.
IzPIMPIN calls (21.95)
IPredictPain raises (25.25) to 29.25
IPredictPain is all-In.
sweetie80 calls (3.30)
IzPIMPIN calls (3.30)
Creating Main Pot with $95 with IPredictPain
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]
IzPIMPIN checks.
sweetie80 bets (12)
IzPIMPIN calls (11.25)
IzPIMPIN is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ]
Creating Side Pot 1 with $22.50 with IzPIMPIN
** Summary **
Main Pot: $95 | Side Pot 1: $22.50 | Side Pot 2: $0.75 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Th Ks 2s Jh 4s ]
sweetie80 balance $18.20, bet $42.75, collected $12, lost -$30.75 [ 5s 5c Kh 2d ] [ two pairs, kings and twos -- Kh,Ks,Jh,2d,2s ]
IzPIMPIN balance $11.25, bet $42, collected $11.25, lost -$30.75 [ Kd Qd 2h 8c ] [ two pairs, kings and twos -- Kd,Ks,Jh,2h,2s ]
IPredictPain balance $95, bet $30.75, collected $95, net +$64.25 [ Qs Jc 3s 9s ] [ a flush, king high -- Ks,Qs,9s,4s,2s ]
This didn't involve me but I found funny. Sweetie goes on to berate IPredictPain for his play, IzPimpin said a couple things but it was mainly sweetie. Haha, all you had was top and bottom pair! Further evidence this game is insanely profitable.
Hand 4
***** Hand History for Game 2558066757 *****
poligrip has left the table.
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 21:07:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 37359 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: FireFox_ ( $24.25)
Seat 3: Aardvark47 ( $23.40)
Seat 4: tobbak ( $0.95)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $28.10)
Seat 6: kapahm ( $54.85)
Seat 7: mistergrinch ( $21.20)
Seat 8: wetfrog ( $10.60)
Seat 9: sadbanana ( $19.80)
Seat 10: force1956 ( $16.65)
tobbak posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Js, Kd, 8s, 7h ]
kapahm folds.
wetfrog folds.
sadbanana folds.
force1956 calls (0.25)
FireFox_ folds.
Aardvark47 folds.
tobbak calls (0.15)
briachek1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Tc, 9h, 6h ]
tobbak checks.
briachek1 checks.
force1956 bets (0.75)
tobbak calls (0.70)
tobbak is all-In.
briachek1 raises (3.70) to 3.70
force1956 calls (2.95)
Creating Main Pot with $2.75 with tobbak
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qh ]
briachek1 bets (5)
force1956 calls (5)
** Dealing River ** : [ 9c ]
briachek1 checks.
force1956 bets (7.70)
force1956 is all-In.
briachek1 calls (7.70)
Creating Side Pot 1 with $29.80 with force1956
** Summary **
Main Pot: $2.75 | Side Pot 1: $29.80 | | Rake: $1.70
Board: [ Tc 9h 6h Qh 9c ]
tobbak balance $0, lost $0.95 [ Kc 3s Ks 8d ] [ two pairs, kings and nines -- Kc,Ks,Qh,9h,9c ]
briachek1 balance $11.45, lost $16.65 [ Js Kd 8s 7h ] [ a straight, nine to king -- Kd,Qh,Js,Tc,9h ]
force1956 balance $32.55, bet $16.65, collected $32.55, net +$15.90 [ Ts 4h 9s Jc ] [ a full house, Nines full of tens -- Ts,Tc,9s,9h,9c ]
Got to love 4 outers. I didn't really like the turn but him not raising, gave me hope, then the river hit. With the size of this pot, can I fold? I could have induced a bluff with a smaller straight.
Hand 5
***** Hand History for Game 2557982283 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 20:54:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 36722 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: saltamore ( $39.90)
Seat 3: briachek1 ( $24.50)
Seat 4: pocketwilds2 ( $41.55)
Seat 5: tonnm ( $90.25)
Seat 6: simonex1 ( $24.75)
Seat 7: paulrevere ( $16.05)
Seat 8: housewife1 ( $9.30)
Seat 9: mje123111 ( $18)
Seat 10: jukeNpuke ( $43.20)
saltamore posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Ah, 8c, Ad, 3h ]
pocketwilds2 calls (0.25)
tonnm folds.
paulrevere calls (0.25)
housewife1 folds.
mje123111 calls (0.25)
jukeNpuke folds.
saltamore folds.
briachek1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4s, Ks, 8h ]
briachek1 checks.
pocketwilds2 checks.
paulrevere checks.
mje123111 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
briachek1 checks.
pocketwilds2 bets (1.10)
paulrevere folds.
mje123111 folds.
briachek1 calls (1.10)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
briachek1 checks.
pocketwilds2 bets (3.15)
briachek1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $6.30 | Rake: $0.15
Board: [ 4s Ks 8h 2h 5s ]
pocketwilds2 balance $43.35, bet $4.50, collected $6.30, net +$1.80
Great river card....wait...it completed the flush? Shit. Would he bet out the pot without the flush?
Hand 6
***** Hand History for Game 2557859728 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 20:32:46 EDT 2005
Table Table 37359 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pinodrinker ( $20.60)
Seat 2: mistergrinch ( $23.85)
Seat 3: tappio ( $216.89)
Seat 4: mpozar ( $24.75)
Seat 5: briachek1 ( $25.10)
Seat 6: kapahm ( $39.85)
Seat 7: lil_Gaz ( $15)
Seat 8: wetfrog ( $17.05)
Seat 9: sadbanana ( $29.80)
Seat 10: tdpalermo ( $71.82)
mpozar posts small blind (0.10)
briachek1 posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Qh, 9d, Qs, Kh ]
kapahm did not respond in time.
kapahm folds.
lil_Gaz calls (0.25)
wetfrog folds.
sadbanana calls (0.25)
tdpalermo calls (0.25)
pinodrinker folds.
mistergrinch folds.
tappio raises (1.60) to 1.60
mpozar folds.
briachek1 calls (1.35)
lil_Gaz folds.
sadbanana folds.
tdpalermo calls (1.35)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 2c, 3d ]
briachek1 checks.
tdpalermo checks.
tappio checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4h ]
briachek1 bets (5.15)
tdpalermo calls (5.15)
tappio calls (5.15)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3s ]
briachek1 checks.
tdpalermo checks.
tappio checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $19.85 | Rake: $1
Board: [ 3c 2c 3d 4h 3s ]
tappio balance $210.14, lost $6.75 [ Jd Ks 6c 5s ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6c,5s,4h,3c,2c ]
briachek1 balance $38.20, bet $6.75, collected $19.85, net +$13.10 [ Qh 9d Qs Kh ] [ a full house, Threes full of queens -- Qh,Qs,3c,3d,3s ]
tdpalermo balance $65.07, lost $6.75 [ Jh 6s 5h As ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6s,5h,4h,3c,2c ]
Probably not smart to bet out oop on the turn but the raiser was aggressive so I think if he had an overpair, he would have bet so I took a stab at it on the turn. The river, I planned on calling a modest bet but a full pot bet? Don't think so but that goes against my original read. tdpalermo yelled at me after the hand for sucking out. First off, he's the one that called the raise with crap and didn't raise with the straight.
Hand 7
***** Hand History for Game 2557781900 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Thu Aug 18 20:18:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 37264 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: beefaroni ( $35.98)
Seat 2: briachek1 ( $26.45)
Seat 3: h_v_d ( $10.97)
Seat 4: rockyXV ( $12.75)
Seat 5: guilherp ( $27.15)
Seat 6: vargo11 ( $24.75)
Seat 7: choker ( $78.25)
Seat 8: lebigone1241 ( $22.84)
Seat 9: frkideaky ( $23.30)
Seat 10: DCP48 ( $11.65)
rockyXV posts small blind (0.10)
guilherp posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to briachek1 [ Jd, 9d, Ks, 8s ]
vargo11 folds.
choker folds.
lebigone1241 calls (0.25)
frkideaky calls (0.25)
DCP48 raises (0.50) to 0.50
beefaroni folds.
briachek1 calls (0.50)
h_v_d calls (0.50)
rockyXV calls (0.40)
guilherp calls (0.25)
lebigone1241 calls (0.25)
frkideaky calls (0.25)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 2s, 5s ]
rockyXV checks.
guilherp checks.
lebigone1241 checks.
frkideaky checks.
DCP48 checks.
briachek1 checks.
h_v_d checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Td ]
rockyXV checks.
guilherp checks.
lebigone1241 checks.
frkideaky checks.
DCP48 bets (0.75)
briachek1 calls (0.75)
h_v_d raises (6.35) to 6.35
rockyXV folds.
guilherp folds.
lebigone1241 folds.
frkideaky folds.
DCP48 folds.
briachek1 calls (5.60)
** Dealing River ** : [ 9c ]
briachek1 bets (5)
h_v_d calls (4.12)
h_v_d is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $23.94 with h_v_d
** Summary **
Main Pot: $23.94 | Side Pot 1: $0.88 | Rake: $1.25
Board: [ 7c 2s 5s Td 9c ]
briachek1 balance $39.42, bet $11.85, collected $24.82, net +$12.97 [ Jd 9d Ks 8s ] [ a straight, seven to jack -- Jd,Td,9c,8s,7c ]
h_v_d balance $0, lost $10.97 [ 9s Tc Th 2c ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Tc,Th,Td,9c,7c ]
yes I thought he had TT but with so many outs, i got to call because I know I will get that last $4 from him.
Statistics: Posted by briachek — Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:55 am
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