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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-09-02T11:56:09-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=24&t=6238&mode 2005-09-02T11:56:09-06:00 2005-09-02T11:56:09-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6238&p=44021#p44021 <![CDATA[$200 PLO hand]]>
What really made me surprised was this guy's stop-go play - surely if he had a set he'd have pushed it on the flop, rather than making this wierd free-card-then-push play? So I thought that was highly unlikely (and if he DID have a set I'm not in such bad shape to call with my outs). Most likely, it seemed to me, he had a drawing hand or he'd just found a second pair to go with a king and some sort of draw on the flop. It basically baffled me, I realised if ALL my outs were clean then I had just about even money odds to make the play, with a bit of cash behind me. I thought it was just (JUST) possible he was making a play and my kings might just be good, which maybe sways it gently into +EV territory. However, I hadn't really considered the other player (and the possibility that if both players come along, i could be in very bad shape vs a set and a nut flush draw, with some of my straight outs potentially covered; worst case scenario I might only have 5 or 6 outs, though that seemed unlikely). Well, in the end the timer was running out, and I couldn't really make up my mind but decided to take the plunge and push it in (call plus my last 10 bucks, as I wouldn't be able to fold that on any given river).

I should've realised (and kind of did) his play made a set unlikely, and if he DID have one it was probably not kings, opening up my 2 queens as possible outs. If he'd hit his second pair my 3 jacks might be outs too, which would help make up for the fact he might have some of my outs in his hand. However, this turn is SUCH a blank that there's really a very good chance he's making a typical newbie/gambler type play and just pushing a total semi-bluff. If there's even a 10-20% chance that my kings are ahead it can sway the EV crucial %s in my favour, possibly by quite a long way. It turned out he had nothing bu QJ9 for the mini-wrap and when the river brought a 7 my bare pair of kings won me a $440 pot! In this spot I just had a "feeling" based on the action that UTG+1 wouldn't call off his stack, and IF he did there was still a sidepot to fight over even if UTG+1 had some of my outs covered. So I think I made (marginally) the right decision. I was sure glad to win a big pot with next to nothing, when he tabled his cards! That chance he had nothing but a draw against me proved vital to giving me a big +EV call - although I'm about evens to play if he has a set, he's in really bad shape holding a hand that includes the same straight draw as me with no pair and no flush features, so in the event I was massive favourite on the turn. I did consider folding though, and the end it was probably more of an "I can't believe he can possibly have any more than 2 pair" rather than a fully reasoned train of thought that made me call!

Monk
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2005-09-02T07:37:18-06:00 2005-09-02T07:37:18-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6238&p=43949#p43949 <![CDATA[$200 PLO hand]]> Statistics: Posted by euri10 — Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:37 am


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2005-09-01T20:33:05-06:00 2005-09-01T20:33:05-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6238&p=43847#p43847 <![CDATA[$200 PLO hand]]> Statistics: Posted by JJSCOTT2 — Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:33 pm


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2005-09-01T19:51:12-06:00 2005-09-01T19:51:12-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6238&p=43840#p43840 <![CDATA[$200 PLO hand]]> Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:51 pm


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