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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2005-10-02T08:09:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=24&t=7147&mode 2005-10-02T08:09:02-06:00 2005-10-02T08:09:02-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=52346#p52346 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]> Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:09 am


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2005-10-02T06:03:13-06:00 2005-10-02T06:03:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=52322#p52322 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]>
So when I thought about it afterwards it seemed SB should be able to make the call. He is calling 700 to win 1450 (chances for a scoop are surely minimal) and it seems a good price since a flush doesnt seem probable for me. For me to bet on the end I think I have to go all-in (almost pot), that might give me some chance to take it, though I still think SB should call here. That of course leads to the conclusion that if I had only the nutflush draw I might want to draw only to that on turn, but with apparent blockers on flop callers hands it probably would still be -ev. Furthermore, would it be so that SB should push the river here? The flushdraw does seem unlikely for me so maybe here he could have a spot to blow me off a tricky straight without redraws? And if I thought he should call a push here then surely its better to push yourself.

Okay so the situation was more complicated than I thought and I guess I have to think about it a bit more. Maybe against a more timid player the call-call-push line would be a valid one, and better yet if he is in the blinds. Against a solid-tricky guy I guess I need to push the river if Im the bettor on the hand with just the straight.

Btw I like the check-call, check-raise line for a straight-no redraws which briancheck mentioned about. In my game there is a good chance the turn might get checked through if its not multiway but probably thats better than to face a huge decision on the river. Also if the bord would be 589 the check-raise line would be even better because if turn blanks the river has gazillion scarecards.

Yep I bet 700 on the river and villain did think for a while but called and we splitted.

Statistics: Posted by forssell — Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:03 am


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2005-10-01T10:47:26-06:00 2005-10-01T10:47:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=52113#p52113 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]> Statistics: Posted by briachek — Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:47 am


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2005-10-01T10:13:56-06:00 2005-10-01T10:13:56-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=52102#p52102 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]> Statistics: Posted by forssell — Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:13 am


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2005-09-30T19:43:03-06:00 2005-09-30T19:43:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=51985#p51985 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]> Statistics: Posted by Kuso — Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:43 pm


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2005-09-30T18:00:29-06:00 2005-09-30T18:00:29-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7147&p=51971#p51971 <![CDATA[flopped nuts but no redraws]]>
Party 2k PLO, effective stacks 2k.

A limped 5-way pot, im in the CO with QQ78, flop comes 569hh, i have no hearts. Villain leads from SB for pot -97- and 2 people call to me. I dont really remember SB so that increases the probability he is a pretty typical player, not bad not great not tricky etc. since he is in SB it increases a bit the probability he doesnt have redraws, also with 2 callers some of the drawing hands seem to be elsewhere.

Turn (485) comes Kx, SB leads pot, folded to me. I call planning to call any river bet after a draw-completing card, pushing a brick (well almost 100% he has the 87 too), and if a draw completes Im planning to bet 700 after its checked to me.

River (1465) 3h, check I bet 700.

I have no idea if villain has thoughts on my play, but I would be surprised if he thought I was a big bluffer.

Statistics: Posted by forssell — Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:00 pm


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