Pieter
Statistics: Posted by Ojingo — Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:22 pm
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Did you see this guy making brave moves/semi-bluffs at any point? I think you need a pretty solid read to push in here, probably one that suggests he's the sort who is savvy enough to know your likely range and try to put a play on you a reasonable percentage of the time.
Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:47 pm
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Statistics: Posted by Ojingo — Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:11 am
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Anyway most good PLO players, even the loose ones (like myself) shy away from medium to low pairs, so with that I don't think he has 44xx or 88xx unless he has two pair in the pocket, or some nice connectors with them (like 4456 or 6788). So basically what I'm saying is I think he has something like 3456, 567x or an overpair/random bluff cause he puts you on just an overpair enough so that its worth the push. It should be noted that the fact that you have KK here is not something to completely ignore, if he does have a higher set this triples your outs to suckout which is very nice. I prolly wouldn't be raising KK33 after limpers, but to each his own.
Statistics: Posted by Xaston — Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:57 pm
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The hand: I get KK33 in LP, and raise to $10 after a few limpers. Opponent is the only caller. Flop comes 348 rainbow. He checks, I bet pot ($30), he checkraises pot. What do you do? Obviously, a call is going to commit you, so it's either push or fold.
Some more or less relevant thoughts:
1) he will call the preflop raise with quite a wide range of hands; we both have a full stack, he thinks I'm aggressive, so that he has some implied odds. He can have anything from AAxx to a wrap-type hand.
2) this is a typical garbage flop and he expects me to have missed completely. From his point of view, I have an overpair at best, although he should know that I raise in LP with more than just AAxx and KKxx.
3) If his checkraise is not a complete bluff, then he is either miles behind with some 2 pair hand, or miles ahead with a higher set. The only other hand I can see him make this play with is with a wrap straight draw.
How often do you think he is on a complete bluff? Do you think you are ahead enough times to make pushing +EV?
Results later.
Pieter
Statistics: Posted by Ojingo — Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:51 pm
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