Statistics: Posted by LivePokerForum — Tue May 21, 2013 10:40 am
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if we give villain a wide range to 3bet and a tight range to call a 4bet/shove (which is normally the case) we are in trouble. Cause as soon as we 4bet/shove he's only calling us when we are beat. Calling a shove is even worse with AK cause we beat actually nothing, he's not shoving with AQ. We hope to be a coinflip vs jj, qq or split vs AK.
say we 4bet to 15$
villain shoves
we have to call 85$ in a 115$ pot means we have to have an equity of 73%
AK is preflop good cause we have FEQ and once we put a big chunk of our stack in, we are fine calling. Still, calling is pretty bad with AK against a tight range
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.540% 24.68% 15.86% 182578824 117305460.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 59.460% 43.60% 15.86% 322525584 117305460.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
standard would be
u raise, villain 3 bets to 12bb
you 4bet to 40bb
he shoves
you get 42% pot odds. And you have against a tight shove range 40% equity.
with ur read btw i'm fine calling his minlike 3bet IP cause i dont know what to do once he shoves / calls your 4bet. He's likely to hang himself with a lot crap. 3bet stats help a lot
and i dont like the flopminraise. there is no "inforaise"
either i call or fold. I think i fold this one not sure though
Statistics: Posted by Jossnaz — Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:36 am
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ryans, stop playing on a site where u have no pt, especially when u multitable.
i think raising turn to 15... well i'm really not sure. If he has AQ or AJ he has 10 outs, not 6 right.
btw if you bet river, villain MUST -call- you to 50% with worse to make the bet breakeven, the other 50% you can lose or fold to a raise (remember to fold to the raise, you have a medium hand so stop levelling). So why would you bet?
and i think i fold river to smth like a 17$ bet. Leak?
ryan please:
dont even think about including results. It's superhorrible to do that, stop it!
Statistics: Posted by Jossnaz — Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:18 am
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Also, "I think the push is a clear call based on read." a little more details please... (still very much a newbie.)
One of the things that got this game so popular, guys like me can play the game decently (debatable
) but can totally get lost in the lingo at times... and from the very first hand i played this game i though "hey, this is easy, i can do it" and everytime i look back a *month* i wonder how i ever kicked anybodys ass or made any cash!Statistics: Posted by ryans — Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:38 pm
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Other than a set, i usually fold these... but something just didnt sit right, know what i mean... its just "something"
Statistics: Posted by ryans — Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:31 pm
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Statistics: Posted by ryans — Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:27 pm
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Ryan, MT is only drawing dead or really slim to AAd or all flopped Adxd hands in this scenario. I think the push is a clear call based on read.
Statistics: Posted by Danhdan — Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:24 pm
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IMO, 3-bet preflop. CO opening here is usually not that strong, and could just be trying to steal blinds and limper money. 3-bet to $12.
If you flat this flop, I am probably going to flop the flop here with a call, but I think I like a raise on the turn because of the weak bet...I don't want to give him another free card. Raise the turn to $21.
Edit: changed bold
Statistics: Posted by Danhdan — Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:14 pm
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