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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-05-29T03:41:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=14386&mode 2006-05-29T03:41:26-06:00 2006-05-29T03:41:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=122016#p122016 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by Cooper — Mon May 29, 2006 3:41 am


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2006-05-28T19:28:10-06:00 2006-05-28T19:28:10-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121852#p121852 <![CDATA[Re: check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by TD — Sun May 28, 2006 7:28 pm


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2006-05-27T21:03:09-06:00 2006-05-27T21:03:09-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121591#p121591 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by bkholdem — Sat May 27, 2006 9:03 pm


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2006-05-27T14:08:44-06:00 2006-05-27T14:08:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121534#p121534 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by mike_m235 — Sat May 27, 2006 2:08 pm


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2006-05-27T13:14:58-06:00 2006-05-27T13:14:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121529#p121529 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]>
Just today someone raised me 5 BB from the button and I called from the SB with JJ, for a heads up pot.

Flop was AA10 rainbow. I checked, and he made a pretty weak bet. I reckoned me might not have the ace and checkraised him pretty hard.

He called me down with KQ, a for gutshot straight draw on a paired board. Turn was a J and he got stacked for being a megadonk, but without the jack I prolly woulda had to fold..

Statistics: Posted by Yliherra — Sat May 27, 2006 1:14 pm


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2006-05-27T11:21:49-06:00 2006-05-27T11:21:49-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121513#p121513 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by bkholdem — Sat May 27, 2006 11:21 am


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2006-05-27T11:10:29-06:00 2006-05-27T11:10:29-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121508#p121508 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by AlexMR — Sat May 27, 2006 11:10 am


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2006-05-27T10:53:15-06:00 2006-05-27T10:53:15-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121504#p121504 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by Felonius_Monk — Sat May 27, 2006 10:53 am


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2006-05-27T10:37:22-06:00 2006-05-27T10:37:22-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121498#p121498 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by WayToGo — Sat May 27, 2006 10:37 am


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2006-05-26T17:16:13-06:00 2006-05-26T17:16:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121277#p121277 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by bkholdem — Fri May 26, 2006 5:16 pm


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2006-05-26T13:58:52-06:00 2006-05-26T13:58:52-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121225#p121225 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by Yenool — Fri May 26, 2006 1:58 pm


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2006-05-26T12:12:37-06:00 2006-05-26T12:12:37-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121168#p121168 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Fri May 26, 2006 12:12 pm


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2006-05-26T08:46:28-06:00 2006-05-26T08:46:28-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121089#p121089 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]>
Also, the size of the CB can often tell the strength of their hand. Its better to CR when villian puts out a weakish bet; especially if the last few CBs you saw villain bet were stronger.

Furthermore, a combination of a Ace hi borad with a weak CB by villain means Check-Raise him..

Statistics: Posted by Spank_her_Pair — Fri May 26, 2006 8:46 am


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2006-05-26T08:14:13-06:00 2006-05-26T08:14:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121080#p121080 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]> Statistics: Posted by T-Rod — Fri May 26, 2006 8:14 am


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2006-05-26T06:01:23-06:00 2006-05-26T06:01:23-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14386&p=121041#p121041 <![CDATA[check raise with nothing]]>
There are benefits of doing it on a drawy board (as in you have outs, I would prefer to do it with a straight draw rather than a flush draw as it's much less obvious when you hit) too.

Of course if they have nothing it will usually work no matter what you have. Knowing your opponent and your own table image are important factors.

The other day I took a pot off someone with pocket 4's in the BB by checkraising the flop (he had an obvious big pair and I was hoping no set) and pushing the turn. He timed way down before folding, I showed and he went on tilt.

I also bluff raised the turn on another table (I had 99 and didnt raise this time from ep and there was a J high on flop and Q on turn) after the preflop raiser checked the flop and bet the turn. He had KK and checked the flop to trap me. When he checked the flop and bet the turn I put him on AK but it was a mistake as he would have lead with that on the flop very often. I was really stupid for me to make this play as I would have raised JJ or QQ pre and would have bet a baby set almost always on the flop when checked to. So he had me cold here. He called the raise and checked the river, I gave up the play and checked behind.



At baby stakes you can just 16 table pocket pairs and set mine and rake in a nice hourly earn. Once your up against players who have also moved up in stakes and pay attention and are winning players and they see that every time you raise you have it, well they are either trapping you with the 1 or 2 hands that beat you, are getting odds to draw (immediate or implied), or they are done with the hand. Who wants to play a big pot against an opponent who your note on them says "tight and never bluffs or semi bluffs" or something to that effect?

On the best playes at the table:

That is a relative idea and the truely best players do not often lay down the best hand.
A default strategy against a tight player would be to give them credit but some good players may also decide to float your checkraise to see what you do. Flat calling a raise is a powerful play, especially in postion. If you have a set and a flush completes on the turn what are you going to do? Bet and fold to a push? Does he now have AKs instead of KK because he cold called your checkraise and the third heart fell?

I am beginning to realize just how powerful postion is if played well by a smart player with stones. Something I need to work on is consistency with representing hands on future streets that flow with how I would play something preflop and on the flop. I think I need to do it single or double tabling to get used to it rather than 6 tabling though lol.

Statistics: Posted by bkholdem — Fri May 26, 2006 6:01 am


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