For me, its a total read play. If the short stack has shown some donkish tendencies, I'll reraise and expect to be a 60/40 fav. However, if shortie has been rather tight most of the time, I'm not inclined to get involved with less than JJ.
Statistics: Posted by T-Rod — Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:08 pm
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I ended up folding with a heavy sigh, but I knew, I KNEW, that a nine would come on the flop.
One of the limpers called.
Flop came
![[3c]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3c.gif "The Three of Clubs")
, ![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
, ![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
Some betting insued and the short stack was all-in.
Turn was the
![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
and river was the ![[8s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/8s.gif "The Eight of Spades")
So a pretty draw heavy board.
But limper showed pocket Tens, and shortie small stack showed pocket Jacks.
So I would have won a really nice pot to end the morning.
Oh well.
Statistics: Posted by LuparFiend — Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:01 pm
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If you do call and get one or both of them to come along, if you hit your set you can lead out with a bet about the size of the pot which would look suspiciously like you're trying to put the short stack to the test. If one of the other players actually hits something there is a good chance you'll get some action.
The pre-flop call is only about 1/20th of your stack, and assuming the other two limpers have decent stacks I like your implied odds.
Statistics: Posted by Jav — Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:06 am
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So I just fold and end my session there if that is what you were intending to do anyway..
As it is, pump it or dump it situation, either re-raise vs the shorty trying to rep a monster or fold, no implied odds and the limpers probably don't have much / need to hit the flop just as hard as you do in order to pay you off.
Statistics: Posted by Yenool — Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:59 am
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Statistics: Posted by Ricardooon — Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:37 am
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Unless you want to push against the short stack, which isn't an unreasonable play. But simply calling for set value is a -EV play.
Statistics: Posted by mike_m235 — Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:06 am
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if i think there is a really good chance one of the other guys comes along I call and play for a set if it i think the other limpers will fold I will fold and leave for the night
good question
Statistics: Posted by Jarren — Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:04 am
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I'm about to leave, and usually leave right before the BB gets to me. I get Pocket 9's UTG. I limp. Two middle position players also limp. The short stack on the button, who only has $42 (I have full stack of $200) raises to $12. So it's $10 for me to call.
What do you do here? When playing low to mid pocket pairs, you are usually playing set it or forget it. My implied odds are not good here considering I can only win another $30 from the Button.
But there are two limpers who may possibly call the raise too. And both of them had me covered. But it could be just as likely they have pocket pairs and are also playing set it or forget it.
Lets assume there is a 50% chance that at least one of the limpers will call (thats probably on the low end). Is it worth it to call the raise with pocket 9's?
Thanks
Statistics: Posted by LuparFiend — Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:57 am
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