The problem is that after the flop it is a very marginal holding. As KQ alomost always will be if you do not hit really hard. And I guess thats one of the reason to limit the play with KQ - it gets you in very tricky situations.
On the flop i bet 8 into a 14 pot, giving the first caller 8/22 in odds, The problem is when he calls the second get 8/30. Would I really have found out more with a 12 bet, giving 12/26 for the first guy. What is it that he would call the first bet with and not the second?
At the same time I do not want to escalate and build a large pot with a very marginal holding, and with one guy behind to act. I want to control the size of the pot, as I did with the check on the turn.
So is it really better to bet harder on the flop? And what odds should I give them?
I have gotten myself into a tricky situation, that I do not know how I should have handled best.
And thanks for all of yur advices!
Statistics: Posted by Electrolux — Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:00 am
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I think I'd raise or fold KQo pre-flop. The limp/call isn't *too* bad though with two bad players in front of you, as you demonstrated by outplaying SB for his stack.
Statistics: Posted by Smokin'Al — Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:45 pm
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IMO if you want to get involved with KQo you need to raise it to limit the field to one, max 2 callers, then your TPGK probably is good enough to continue (once again IMO KQo plays bad in multiway pots).
On flop your raise is too small and doesn't give you any information, make it pot against that many limpers.
Checking turn is read dependent, if you were against a lone caller I would suggest to fire again, as it is check is ok.
A must fold on the river (I haven't seen the result yet) he fires into 3 people, it is very-very-very rarely a bluff, a 6 probably didn't help him, but he could be planning a check-raise on the turn, so I think he has you beat.
Statistics: Posted by Zmej — Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:22 am
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Blinds: $0.50/$1
10 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $56.70
UTG+1: $35.00
Hero: $106.10
MP1: $18.30
MP2: $99.00
MP3: $100.00
CO: $102.00
Button: $296.70
SB: $55.40
BB: $69.10
This is a hand where I get involved with a marginal holding, and I do not know how I should have played it, if at all. Input appreciated
SB is a Ultra loose and very aggressive guy with 53/33, and is basically a maniac donk
MP3 I have no read on.
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with
![[Qs]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qs.gif "The Queen of Spades")
![[Kh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Kh.gif "The King of Hearts")
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.
First call, there are two limpers so I limp. After the small raise I have good potodds. Is my reasoning. Should I have folded?
Flop:
![[Qh]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Qh.gif "The Queen of Hearts")
![[3d]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/3d.gif "The Three of Diamonds")
![[9h]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/9h.gif "The Nine of Hearts")
($14, 4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $8, MP3 calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.
I bet to see where I stand, and maybe even take down the pot if nobody has anything. What size should the bet be? Not giving right drawing odds?
Turn:
![[Jc]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/Jc.gif "The Jack of Clubs")
($46, 4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks.
With that many callers on the flop, I am basically done with the hand.
Should I bet to not give a free card?
River:
![[6s]](https://livepokerforum.com/images/smilies/6s.gif "The Six of Spades")
($46, 4 players)SB is all-in $43.4, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds.
That 6 couldn't have helped him. And he is a maniac. Smells busted draw. Do you call that with Top Pair? And there is still one behind to act. But the 6 couldn't have helped him. Should I call, fold, or raise to shut out the player behind (I guess not)?
Results:
Final pot: $132.8
SB shows 7H 2H
Hero shows QS KH
Statistics: Posted by Electrolux — Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:30 am
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