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Live Poker Forum - Online Poker Forums & Hand Analysis Poker Forum 2006-09-01T12:29:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/feed.php?f=5&t=17228&mode 2006-09-01T12:29:58-06:00 2006-09-01T12:29:58-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=153926#p153926 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by T-Rod — Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:29 pm


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2006-09-01T02:03:25-06:00 2006-09-01T02:03:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=153746#p153746 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by DoctorHandles — Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:03 am


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2006-09-01T00:03:28-06:00 2006-09-01T00:03:28-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=153731#p153731 <![CDATA[AA deep]]>
You did a fine job explaining it Kenny.
In a case like this if Ice reraises here:

A) Guy has an overpair or onepair type hand and mostly mucks but occasionally goes all-in.

B) Guy has a set and calls/goes all-in. Ice is committed to his hand at this point and has to call. This is bad.

C) Guy has a draw and goes all-in. Again Ice is committed to his hand and calls for a coinflip. This is okay but not great.

If you want to stack off in this hand, it is far far better to call and see a safe turn and then get the money in.
You're still going broke to group B hands but now you may get more money out of group A hands and your equity against group C hands has improved a ton.
If a scare card falls you may be folding the best hand but given the hand range on the flop you're now behind more often than not.

So for an answer: for a double stack I'd often fold here on the flop but sometimes I would call and get the money in on a safe turn with either a CRAI if he's aggro or a bet-call if he's passive.
I'd lean more toward stacking off depending on images at the time, etc.

I think that's my final answer.

Statistics: Posted by shobute — Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:03 am


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2006-08-31T23:45:13-06:00 2006-08-31T23:45:13-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=153726#p153726 <![CDATA[AA deep]]>
In actuality, looking at the history here, specifically having stacked the guy a short while before with a CRAI, I like the simple fold line. You've recently shown enormous aggression and there's no reason here why you can't have AK or something.

I think a raise in this situation is completely out of the question.

In a vacuum, the best I can normally do here is flat call and hope it gets checked down. But the background of the hand to me favors the laydown. I can't say exactly why except that the background of the hand has this whole thing too emotionally charged. I'd also like the board a little more if I at least had Ah in my hand--giving runner-runner possibilities, possibilities of bluffing AKs, and also making the possibility of setting your aces at least definitely NOT create a suited board.

While I don't like the immediate laydown as habitual play, I do like it in context. You've just stacked the guy. Now get out of his way a little in a small-medium pot and let everything chill out a little.

Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:45 pm


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2006-08-31T21:24:25-06:00 2006-08-31T21:24:25-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=153675#p153675 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by kennyg — Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:24 pm


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2006-08-29T11:38:20-06:00 2006-08-29T11:38:20-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=152892#p152892 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by poker2006 — Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:38 am


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2006-08-28T21:38:00-06:00 2006-08-28T21:38:00-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=152706#p152706 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by Triple B — Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:38 pm


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2006-08-28T20:38:06-06:00 2006-08-28T20:38:06-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=152695#p152695 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:38 pm


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2006-08-28T20:13:44-06:00 2006-08-28T20:13:44-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=152694#p152694 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by wolvish — Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:13 pm


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2006-08-26T16:15:17-06:00 2006-08-26T16:15:17-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151965#p151965 <![CDATA[AA deep]]>
If folding is so weak-tight (which might be the case, but i dont think so), then u have to raise pretty much the pot on the flop to see where u are. And then if he pushes your done with hand i assume. But what if he calls? then what? I just think you would be saving alot of money in the long run if u just muck and wait for a better spot.

Statistics: Posted by hard2tel — Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:15 pm


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2006-08-26T14:33:47-06:00 2006-08-26T14:33:47-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151943#p151943 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:33 pm


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2006-08-26T13:24:39-06:00 2006-08-26T13:24:39-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151915#p151915 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by wolvish — Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:24 pm


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2006-08-26T11:53:03-06:00 2006-08-26T11:53:03-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151894#p151894 <![CDATA[AA deep]]>
So that really means that it boils down to reads as to how this guy would play what. If he'd flat call with a flush draw, for example, then you have to lay down.

Statistics: Posted by Aisthesis — Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:53 am


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2006-08-26T09:57:26-06:00 2006-08-26T09:57:26-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151859#p151859 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by iceman5 — Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:57 am


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2006-08-26T09:44:43-06:00 2006-08-26T09:44:43-06:00 https://livepokerforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17228&p=151855#p151855 <![CDATA[AA deep]]> Statistics: Posted by Yliherra — Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:44 am


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