I agree w/ Ice... I would call the min raise to see if you improve... If you don't and he raises a lot, I would fold... It's a tough laydown, and he could be bluffing, but theres a lot of cards he may have called your preflop w/. I'm obviously not in your league cash wise, but I have a hard time putting my whole stack out there if theres not a pretty good shot I'm sure I got the winning hand.
p.s. I'm w/ you K3nt... these guys are playing hands for more than my car is worth...
Statistics: Posted by MVPSPORTS — Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:21 pm
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Since you check on the turn, the pot will be small enough you can safely call without risking too much, and the amount you lose by losing the pot and giving a free card is often made up for people value betting weaker hands/bluffing. On this hand in particular if he doesn't have you beat and has a pair, he only has 2 outs so the free card is not disasterous. Actually it's likely beneficial because that pair is more likely to value bet than catch a card to beat you. A flush draw is a different story.
In this case it's tricky because he min-raised on the flop.
Barry T. once said in NL "there's nothing wrong with resisting to the slightest bit of resistance" in NL, even if that means folding a big hand. I realized just how correct he is yet I haven't fully taken the advice to heart.
In this example, you can simply fold to the min-raise on the flop, because you fear you may be beat, and you'll be forced to call off your whole stack just to find out on later streets.
The telling thing here is that you represented an overpair by your preflop raise, and you're representing an overpair on the flop, yet he's still raising you. The only justification for calling/pushing is being up against an overaggressive player/bluffer... or relying on your opponnent being an idiot.
This isn't a profitable situation for you to push here because there's virtually 0 chance that he will call you with a worse hand. Sure your K's could be good, and you may get bluffed out here, but you're in a bad position because there's no chance he'll call with a weaker hand to a push. (unless of course, again, you are relying on the opponnent idiot factor)
Statistics: Posted by palman — Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:48 pm
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